The Double (vlaanderen and roubaix), too easy? Why?

[Miburo]

Never... Most of the years it's been a group of 5-10 guys, sometimes even solos (Vino, F.Schleck) and 2-men groups (Boogerd/Rebellin).
Only the last 2/3 years has it been 30 men groups (MAX).

So stop shouting bs

you forgot der stefan

 

[dabar85]

maybe i missed the number but in my mind it is sprint up the cauberg. MSR is 298 k and it was sprint for few years, but last years it isn't and organisers are well aware that it can become for sprinters and route change is on their mind(finish near bottom of poggio)

 

[Froome19]

In M-S r you have sometimes a peloton of 80 riders at the bottom of the Poggio. So M-S R isn't a classic either?

No it just isn't a hilly classic.

 

[luckyboy]

In M-S r you have sometimes a peloton of 80 riders at the bottom of the Poggio. So M-S R isn't a classic either?

The finale of MSR is more exciting than most of the Ardennes classics put together. FW + AGR are just above Scheldeprijs in the excitement ranking.

 

[Pentacycle]

The finale of MSR is more exciting than most of the Ardennes classics put together. FW + AGR are just above Scheldeprijs in the excitement ranking.

It's not difficult to agree on Fleche, it's the Scheldeprijs of the hilly classics. But editions of the AGR like 2009, '10 and '11 were good. In recent years it was often bad weather that decided the excitement in MSR. 2011 and this year were great because of horrid conditions, while 2012 was boring as hell.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

maybe i missed the number but in my mind it is sprint up the cauberg. MSR is 298 k and it was sprint for few years, but last years it isn't and organisers are well aware that it can become for sprinters and route change is on their mind(finish near bottom of poggio)

then your mind is ****ed. Just check the results from 2003 (first finish on Cauberg) till last year. Also check the videos if available. You'll find that up until 2008/2009, most years it was a very small group that reached the Cauberg, if it was a group at all (like I said, 3 solos as well).. Only in recent years has the cauberg sprint trend started (because of cowardly peloton nowadays)

 

[Echoes]

True, Dabar. Up until 2008/9 you'll for instance find Di Luca winning a bunch sprint up the Cauberg (in 2005). Though you won see any live coverage due to the weather.