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The Eternal Second
- Thread starter oldcrank
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oldcrank said:
Well, he's got 5 wins this year.
He's not as good as Cav and he's just on par with the next level of guys, not ahead of them. He's beaten Greipel about as often as he's lost to him head to head over the last few years.
He's got a lot of physical talent, I just think he needs to get better with his tactics.
Look at the finish of stage 19 of the 2010 Vuelta: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vtU1Br4SRc
Farrar had no train and was the only one in the peloton who could follow Gilbert's wheel on a 600m sprint.
Look at the finish of stage 19 of the 2010 Vuelta: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vtU1Br4SRc
Farrar had no train and was the only one in the peloton who could follow Gilbert's wheel on a 600m sprint.
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He is a damn good sprinter, but he has proven he can't win consistently without a leadout. That's all he needs. Garmin needs to assert themselves and really push the pace. This will also help him with positioning which isnt all that impressive, but I suspect he is a bit hesitant after his dad was involved in a horrible accident and his best friend was recently killed. A lot of sprinters throw caution to the wind, Tyler seems a little more reluctant.
He's won stages in all three Grand Tours, Vattenfall twice and Scheldeprijs, so he's doing pretty well for himself.
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Mambo95 said:
I was just about to post sort of the same thing. He seems to be able to win in the races that really matter and the races where he tops out at 2nd to 5th is more during intermediate races in between the bigger goals. It might be that he gets that extra little spark needed to win when the stakes get really high.
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Nielsa said:
Agree on the tactics. He showed in the Tour he could match Cav's speed sometimes and nearly close him down. But in one stage he started 2 bike lengths behind Cav because his leadout man was on Cav's wheel. In that situation, his leadout even needed better tactics by pulling Ty alongside Cav so Cav and Ty could have started at the same position. Easier said than done tho.
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The Hitch said:
Aaaarrrrggghhhhh
Mods please ban that man for making me watch that advert again.
I can't believe there was no warning or anything.
I didn't even have the sound on but I now how the commentary spooling through my brain on and endless loop. It took months of expensive therapy and hypnosis to make me forget the first time, what chance do I have now.
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If Mark Cavendish hadn't taken up cycling, Tyler Farrar would be well on his way to being considered a legend of the sport.
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hrotha said:
About 1000.
Isn't the eternal second going to be Schleck now? I was afraid Evans was gonna be an eternal 2nd in GTs, but thankfully he got a win.
Schleck is probably going to win his fair share of GTs at some point though, but he's been 2nd 4/5 times he's finished a GT and it seems like there could be a few more of those if Contador stays around.
King Of The Wolds said:
Nah, field has been fairly even behind Cav, remember Petacchi won two stages last year. And Greipel would have been HTC's main sprinter anyway.
P.S. How many monuments would J-Rodriguez have if not for Gilbert
Nielsa said:P.S. How many monuments would J-Rodriguez have if not for Gilbert
None. Gilbert's never stood between him and a monument. Andy Schleck has, but not Gilbert.
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hrotha said:
Say Eurosport show it every ad break and they have an average of 6 ad breaks a stage.
And say you watch about 150 days of cycling a year.
Now consider that the ad also appears on other eurosport programming and has even appeared on occasion on non eurosport programmes.
Every moment of this advert is therefore as familiar to me as the experience of sticking food into my mouth.
I dont think its annoying or anything though, just making the point that even if Tyler somehow managed to win the Worlds, MSR and even the Tour for arguments sake, to thousands of cycling fans out there he will always simply be remembered as Transitions Tyler.
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Andy Schleck is the eternal second, there are not many people with 4 second places in GTs and 0 wins. Zoetemelk at least won the Tour once and became WC.
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The perception of a successful sprinter has been skewed by Cavendish. Garmin certainly could do better with a more prolific lead out, but again the standard is set by HTC; Thor was excellent this year and we all know it.
The answer to your question 10 years from now will probably be a yes, though, just because of this guy named Mark
The answer to your question 10 years from now will probably be a yes, though, just because of this guy named Mark
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