The fun begins - SCA now asking for money back...

[ChewbaccaD]

No. The part I cited is correct.

I was quoting the original SCA contract, and have previously provided an image of the same.

Dave.

I was not making rhetorical comment on any part you played in MarkvW's bull****.

 

[reginagold]

Maybe Lance hired Patton Boggs because they have expertise in qui tam litigation?

No. Luskin's nickname on some of the lawyer blogs is "Goldbar" because he received payment in gold bars from a client charged with money laundering. Really. Luskin is quoted in the press as saying he was hired to work on the criminal matter.

It is interesting how the SCA filing deals with Tim Hermann's argument that the contract was between SCA and Tailwind, not SCA and LA. I read it as SCA calling for a court appointed receiver to take over Tailwind. SCA claims this necessary to protect Tailwind's only asset, its claim against Lance for repayment of the money Tailwind received from SCA and paid on to Lance.

Tailwind taken over by the courts? What next?

I need to buy some more popcorn.

 

[MarkvW]

Dude, check the timeline and quit posting trolling bull****. He didn't "take up" anything. You and the facts are not in the same room today...

And answer me this, because you dodged it earlier...if it was a solid decision to drop, why is there another office investigating charges Briotte was fully capable of investigating, and why has that office left him completely out of the loop? Kinda strange they are investigating incidents that occurred in the investigation he closed without ever asking him for any of the files or anything, right? Guess they wanted to do all the heavy lifting from scratch because that is how all investigators operate...

Please stop the insults. It's no fun engaging with you, because of your insulting behavior. There might be something useful in your posts, but it's simply not worth wading through the insults to get to it.

Of course Birotte took up the grand jury (the first one). Grand jury proceedings are initiated by the prosecuting attorney.

 

[cathulu]

Mark is not winning me over. Birotte shut the investigation down from political influence, that is most probable in my mind. Everything from the investigators dismay to Lance's relief point to it.

 

[86TDFWinner]

Mark is not winning me over. Birotte shut the investigation down from political influence, that is most probable in my mind. Everything from the investigators dismay to Lance's relief point to it.

This. IMO, Birotte appears to have been in w/Wonderboy somehow.

 

[MarkvW]

This. IMO, Birotte appears to have been in w/Wonderboy somehow.

In with him from the beginning of the investigation, or later on?

 

[peterst6906]

...Kinda strange they are investigating incidents that occurred in the investigation he closed without ever asking him for any of the files or anything, right?

Just a quick question because I think I've missed this.

Do we know the nature of this criminal investigation? Is that in the public domain somewhere and if so, who is the investigating agency? Is it FBI, IRS, CBP, FDA again or a different body?

TIA.

Regards,

Peter

 

[sittingbison]

Birotte hopelessly compromised.. .Fabiani and Breuer linked to Clinton from Whitewater...political influence.. .Clemens...you do the math

 

[ChewbaccaD]

Please stop the insults. It's no fun engaging with you, because of your insulting behavior. There might be something useful in your posts, but it's simply not worth wading through the insults to get to it.

Of course Birotte took up the grand jury (the first one). Grand jury proceedings are initiated by the prosecuting attorney.

You are correct. My recollection was that Birotte was not named the US attorney until after the investigation was initiated. That is not correct.

Now, explain why he stopped an investigation that could have involved the very incidents that are now being investigated by another office, and why that office has chosen to leave him completely blind to that fact when his office would certainly have mounds of evidence they could use. Not only that, but why did that other office leak their investigation shortly after Briotte announced he had no regrets about stopping his investigation (when it was clear that he was one of the few in the office who felt that way)? Because that was a slap in the face. Period. That was a political move. Period. You don't embarrass a US Attorney like that by accident. You don't leak not only that he was wrong about there being no investigation, but that you aren't including him in on your game unless you want to cast him in a specific light.

So please, answer the questions presented because you have been smearing RR for a year about this, and I want to see how you can continue to deny that there just might be some validity to his assertion. So please, spare me the speech about being such a meanie that you can't make it through my posts...

 

[Race Radio]

Gotta laugh at the fact that neither Borat or Armstrong had any idea that there was another criminal investigation.

I doubt that Lance will be able to get Clinton to make any phone calls this time. I also doubt that this investigation will be dropped without input from investigators and before the Grand Jury is allowed to rule

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

And yet we in Holland would never think of the US as a banana republic.

Comedy capers.

 

[Haynzie]

And yet we in Holland would never think of the US as a banana republic.

.

....and rightly so.

'Banana republic' is a term for a politically unstable country whose economy is largely dependent on the export of a single limited-resource product

See? Nothing like the US.

It typically has stratified social classes, including a large, impoverished working class and a ruling plutocracy that comprises the elites of business, politics, and the military. This politico-economic oligarchy controls the primary-sector productions and thereby exploit the country's economy.

Oh...errr...hang on a minute....

 

[webvan]

Who's "Borat"?

 

[WinterRider]

Who's "Borat"?

Birotte...

 

[Scott SoCal]

Gotta laugh at the fact that neither Borat or Armstrong had any idea that there was another criminal investigation.

I doubt that Lance will be able to get Clinton to make any phone calls this time. I also doubt that this investigation will be dropped without input from investigators and before the Grand Jury is allowed to rule

This. Add this with the point TFF made regarding the leak of the new investigation and it's timing, plus the reaction by those investigating LA at the time... I don't think it's even a mild stretch to believe Birotte was influenced by external parties.

 

[webvan]

Birotte...

Borat=Birotte? Ok...

 

[Fortyninefourteen]

Gotta laugh at the fact that neither Borat or Armstrong had any idea that there was another criminal investigation.

I doubt that Lance will be able to get Clinton to make any phone calls this time. I also doubt that this investigation will be dropped without input from investigators and before the Grand Jury is allowed to rule

Quite certainly no one in the political world will be standing up for Lance, unless they want to ride his coat tails into the black abyss.

 

[Page Mill Masochist]

Quite certainly no one in the political world will be standing up for Lance, unless they want to ride his coat tails into the black abyss.

Lance did the Oprah interview as a Hail Mary to win back public and political support. Backfired hugely.

 

[Fortyninefourteen]

Lance did the Oprah interview as a Hail Mary to win back public and political support. Backfired hugely.

Not that long ago I am sure he believed this would all disappear. Now he is facing the absolute worst case doomsday scenario as a high probability outcome.

5hit just got real!!

 

[DirtyWorks]

Now, explain why he stopped an investigation that could have involved the very incidents that are now being investigated by another office, and why that office has chosen to leave him completely blind to that fact when his office would certainly have mounds of evidence they could use.

Have you worked much in the better-than-average career position? It happens all the time. Birotte has his silo, some other agency has theirs and they don't share because it might be used to make someone like a Birotte look bad or whatever. No one would remember that Birotte's information was helpful. They'd remember the agency that might/might not get a conviction though.

It's not quite as Macchavellian(sp??) as it is made it out to be. Again, I agree there were darker motives to Birotte shutting his investigation down. That kind of influence is both brilliant and scary. Fabiani seems to have it and does very well by it.

 

[reginagold]

Have you worked much in the better-than-average career position? It happens all the time. Birotte has his silo, some other agency has theirs and they don't share because it might be used to make someone like a Birotte look bad or whatever. No one would remember that Birotte's information was helpful. They'd remember the agency that might/might not get a conviction though.

It's not quite as Macchavellian(sp??) as it is made it out to be. Again, I agree there were darker motives to Birotte shutting his investigation down. That kind of influence is both brilliant and scary. Fabiani seems to have it and does very well by it.

Maybe. But Birotte made a mistake by answering the question. His answer seems to have obligated DOJ and the FDA to clarify that in fact investigations were taking place. DOJ could have let Birotte be part of the issuance of the correct information. Corrections often are done in a way that saves face. Even at DOJ. They chose not to go that route.

 

[H2OUUP2]

Lance did the Oprah interview as a Hail Mary to win back public and political support. Backfired hugely.

Ya, because he did the interview...Man! He is pure evil.

 

[Bosco10]

Lance did the Oprah interview as a Hail Mary to win back public and political support. Backfired hugely.

Because humble and sincere are not in Lance's "skill set".. lol.

 

[ChewbaccaD]

Have you worked much in the better-than-average career position? It happens all the time. Birotte has his silo, some other agency has theirs and they don't share because it might be used to make someone like a Birotte look bad or whatever. No one would remember that Birotte's information was helpful. They'd remember the agency that might/might not get a conviction though.

It's not quite as Macchavellian(sp??) as it is made it out to be. Again, I agree there were darker motives to Birotte shutting his investigation down. That kind of influence is both brilliant and scary. Fabiani seems to have it and does very well by it.

No, I've dug ditches all my life.

But even a ditch digger can see the political ramifications of an unnamed source giving information to a news agency that not only contradicts the information a member of another bureau had just given, but also makes clear that member was not in on the deal. Considering that they both are investigating or have investigated the same subject matter, at least in part, I'd call that a slap in the face.

Now riddle me this O'Captain of the worthwhile job, if their silo has nothing to do with the other silos, and this silo didn't leave out the other silo for any other reason than they are in their silo and are doing their silo things, then why the **** did they bother to leak information that pointed out that the other silo wasn't involved. They could have stayed in their silo and kept their sh!t all neat and tidy without embarrassing the dude in the other silo at all since according to you, not embarrassing him was their intent for not including him in the first place.

Whatever, you got any advice about how a ditch digger like me can rise to the heights you have so that I can get this sh!t straight in my head, because evidently, all the dirt is dulling my intelligence...

 

[Irish2009]

Perhaps he was left out of the loop as he may also be under investagation.......just sayin