the giant has returned!!

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The usual Ryo sauce of exaggeration kind of ruins the whole positive message. I know this guy almost died and it's really great to see him back, but more talent than Thomas Dekker and Gesink combined? Seriously.
 
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boomcie said:
The usual Ryo sauce of exaggeration kind of ruins the whole positive message. I know this guy almost died and it's really great to see him back, but more talent than Thomas Dekker and Gesink combined? Seriously.
Reus has always been a bit special.
 
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boomcie said:
The usual Ryo sauce of exaggeration kind of ruins the whole positive message. I know this guy almost died and it's really great to see him back, but more talent than Thomas Dekker and Gesink combined? Seriously.
he had better results than both of them not to mention he started cycling at age 17 so yes he is more talented. we will see what happens now

@parullo he's an allrounder, used to be very good timetrialers, good climber and fast. also explosive guy, the total package
 
Parrulo said:
what kind of rider is he?
ardennes type, who on good days can also climb a fair bit and tt a fair bit. But mostly ardennes type.

Won about everything hilly as u23, but his pro career has been cursed with illness, near-death and finally mono (pfeiffer) which made him decide to quit for a year... You would say one of the most unlucky (nothing to do with skill) u23 to become pro since a long time. Although we've been reminded lately it can always turn worse...
He's still only 26, I hope he can rebuild his career with no pressure. Find the fun back and then grow. Shame of all the 'waisted' years, but definately not over for him yet
 
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Ryo Hazuki said:
he had better results than both of them not to mention he started cycling at age 17 so yes he is more talented. we will see what happens now

@parullo he's an allrounder, used to be very good timetrialers, good climber and fast. also explosive guy, the total package
better results =/= more talented, especially at espoirs level. Otherwise TJVG would be consider more talented than Contador...
 
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Anyway, looking forward to see him ride again. Hope he gets a fair shot at it this time around.
 
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ScottyMuser said:
better results =/= more talented, especially at espoirs level. Otherwise TJVG would be consider more talented than Contador...
contador was spanish biggest u23 talent
 
Dekker_Tifosi said:
ardennes type, who on good days can also climb a fair bit and tt a fair bit. But mostly ardennes type.

Won about everything hilly as u23, but his pro career has been cursed with illness, near-death and finally mono (pfeiffer) which made him decide to quit for a year... You would say one of the most unlucky (nothing to do with skill) u23 to become pro since a long time. Although we've been reminded lately it can always turn worse...
He's still only 26, I hope he can rebuild his career with no pressure. Find the fun back and then grow. Shame of all the 'waisted' years, but definately not over for him yet
ty D_T. i hope he does well. the peloton needs more guys like that. :)
 
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El Pistolero said:
Another overhyped Dutchie in the mix of cycling world.
Gilbert Gilbert Gilbert Gilbert Contador Gilbert. Contador Contador Gilbert Gilbert Gilbert, Gilbert Contador Gilbert! Gilbert Contador Contador... Contador Gilbert Gilbert Gilbert Contador, Gilbert.
 
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I'm not calling Sep Vanmarcke the fusion of Tom Boonen and Gilbert like you guys always do with young Dutch talents though. If there's one thing that annoys me it's cyclists who have yet to proof them self getting overhyped. It's not just with Dutch cyclists though, it also annoyed me with Taylor Phinney.

Thank god you guys are not Spanish or we wouldn't stop hearing of all these young talents that will overtake the cycling world. If Yaroslav Popovych Merckx has taught us anything it's not to overhype U23 results so much.
 
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@pickle

Suggesting we cant use u23 results as a ref. point is stupid. Sure it doesn't always work out, but it is still an indication of talent.

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Reus was such a talent, shame what has happend the past few years.

Hopefully he can get his carrer back on track.

Is he riding the roads also?
 
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Timmy-loves-Rabo said:
@pickle

Suggesting we cant use u23 results as a ref. point is stupid. Sure it doesn't always work out, but it is still an indication of talent.

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Reus was such a talent, shame what has happend the past few years.

Hopefully he can get his carrer back on track.

Is he riding the roads also?
Go ahead and use it but calling him bigger than 2 proven talents is too much for me. I'm going to take the bait then. It rarely works out with big boys in the U23 rank by the way. People like Cancellara, Eisel and Pozzato for example just skipped the u23 category.
 
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El Pistolero said:
I'm not calling Sep Vanmarcke the fusion of Tom Boonen and Gilbert like you guys always do with young Dutch talents though. If there's one thing that annoys me it's cyclists who have yet to proof them self getting overhyped. It's not just with Dutch cyclists though, it also annoyed me with Taylor Phinney.

Thank god you guys are not Spanish or we wouldn't stop hearing of all these young talents that will overtake the cycling world. If Yaroslav Popovych Merckx has taught us anything it's not to overhype U23 results so much.
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El Pistolero said:
Go ahead and use it but calling him bigger than 2 proven talents is too much for me. I'm going to take the bait then. It rarely works out with big boys in the U23 rank by the way. People like Cancellara, Eisel and Pozzato for example just skipped the u23 category.

what lies :lolcry: they all rode in mapei u23. they didn;'t turn pro until around 22/21
 
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Ryo Hazuki said:
what lies :lolcry: they all rode in mapei u23. they didn;'t turn pro until around 22/21
Quote Johan Museeuw: "When Pozzato came to mapei we both rode the Tour of Luxemburg, Pozzato told me he'd never done a race longer than 80 km's before this year." ToL is a prorace...
 
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yeah but they rode in an u23 team. are you saying the rabo ct guys are pro's because they ride in pro races like volta algarve?
 
Ryo Hazuki said:
yeah but they rode in an u23 team. are you saying the rabo ct guys are pro's because they ride in pro races like volta algarve?
But I think technically they were part of the Mapei pro team, which had like a gazillion riders. Back then the separation between pro and u23 was much clearer, you didn't have 20-year-olds in conti teams riding 2.2 and 2.1 races. In a way, Mapei pioneered that approach.
 

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