Teams & Riders The Great Big Cycling Transfers, Extensions, and Rumours Thread

[Skijumper Roglic fan]

any non-Spanish rider to Euskaltel in 2013

Yeah, Steffen Radochla to Euskaltel for 2013 was legendary…

 

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Osborne is with Alpecin-Deceunick next year. I think he hasn't signed with the WT Team, because it is full... The developement Team is getting really strong.

Osborne confirmed that he would stay with Alpecin, but didn't want to unveil which of the two teams. So I'd think the WT one is more likely

 

[Roku]

Gazzetta reports that Cavendish and Bol have signed with Astana.

If true, let's see which one of the Kazakhs will be promoted to leader of the Development Team.

I would have expected Artyom Zakharov, who barely rides 25-30 race days throughout the year, but it seems it will be Nurbergen Nurlykhassym who gets demoted to Conti.

 

[RedheadDane]

I would have expected Artyom Zakharov, who barely rides 25-30 race days throughout the year, but it seems it will be Nurbergen Nurlykhassym who gets demoted to Conti.

Are they allowed to do that? This year was his first on the WT, and I would assume the "Neo-Pro contracts has to be at least two years" rule includes teams not being allowed to demote riders to their conti team after a year.

Edit: Well; they already presented their conti team for next year, without any demotions.

I have a question about when Laurance could potentially be promoted to the WT next year; has there been a new rule? Valgren seems to think he can only be promoted back up to the WT after August 1st, but last year Kooij got promoted to the WT in February.

 

[Ricco']

Are they allowed to do that? This year was his first on the WT, and I would assume the "Neo-Pro contracts has to be at least two years" rule includes teams not being allowed to demote riders to their conti team after a year.

If it's on common grounds or the rider wants to take a step back because he feels his development was ushered, maybe the UCI can't do anything against it.

I'm sure if the opportunity arises, Nurbergen will feel that he took a step too far in getting into the WT so soon and that he needs to take a step back to continue his development, as the experienced Vinokourov reasonably told him in the letter he received in the past days.

 

[RedheadDane]

If it's on common grounds or the rider wants to take a step back because he feels his development was ushered, maybe the UCI can't do anything against it.

I'm sure if the opportunity arises, Nurbergen will feel that he took a step too far in getting into the WT so soon and that he needs to take a step back to continue his development, as the experienced Vinokourov reasonably told him in the letter he received in the past days.

As already mentioned; it's a moot point anyway:

Astana Qazaqstan Development Team presents its 2023 roster - Astana - Qazaqstan

 

[Samu Cuenca]

As already mentioned; it's a moot point anyway:

Astana Qazaqstan Development Team presents its 2023 roster - Astana - Qazaqstan

They can still add riders to the team though.

 

[RedheadDane]

They can still add riders to the team though.

Would be a bit weird, though, if they presented the team, and then two days later were like "And Nurbergen!"

 

[Eddy Evenepoel]

Would be a bit weird, though, if they presented the team, and then two days later were like "And Nurbergen!"

When did something "being a bit weird" ever stop a cycling team?

 

[RedheadDane]

When did something "being a bit weird" ever stop a cycling team?

True... and there might be a case of UCI not (yet) having approved of a potential demotion. However, why not then just wait with presenting the team?

Also, I'm a little confused as to why Nurbergen Nurlykhassym would be classified as someone who stepped up too soon. Sure, he doesn't have any super results, but nor did he barely race, or has a bunch of DNFs, or both.

 

[Roku]

As Riccó said, we will probably read a report in a couple of days that explains how Nurbergen Nurlykhassym conveniently felt how he had rushed stepping up to WT, and the wonders a year at the Conti squad will make to his development before returning to the Top Team in 2024.

We could also read that Zakharov/Natarov has suddenly felt a change of heart and decided to focus on new personal ambitions and step down to Conti to better handle both his cycling and personal aspirations.

 

[Faserr]

Osborne confirmed that he would stay with Alpecin, but didn't want to unveil which of the two teams. So I'd think the WT one is more likely

One rider of Alpecin-Fenix has to step down then. Perhaps David van der Poel. I think that wouldn't be a big problem for him with the same salary, because he doesn't seem to be focused on WT road racing.

 

[RedheadDane]

This has basically become the Great Big Promotion/Demotion Rumours Thread.

 

[King Of The Wolds]

30 British riders in the WT next year, if Cav signs for Astana. Would have seemed impossible 12-15 years ago.

 

[pastronef]

30 British riders in the WT next year, if Cav signs for Astana. Would have seemed impossible 12-15 years ago.

and that's great. I want the British wave to go on and on

 

[Roku]

Bol and Cavendish are already training with Astana.

Wonder which kazakh will get the epiphany at the training camp that he doesn't belong on WT.

 

[Squire]

True... and there might be a case of UCI not (yet) having approved of a potential demotion. However, why not then just wait with presenting the team?

I think the less attention they get around any demotions, the happier they are. So it makes perfect sense to present the team without any sacrificial lamb on it and then quietly add another rider later.

 

[RedheadDane]

I think the less attention they get around any demotions, the happier they are. So it makes perfect sense to present the team without any sacrificial lamb on it and then quietly add another rider later.

I just feel like this would create more of a stir. If they'd just waited, then the demoted rider would just be a name among many.

Also, what is the link between Cavendish and Bol? Is it just because they were both rumoured to B&B? Bol and Sinkeldam had had a "Let's win races together!" plan, but then of course everything fell apart, and Sinkeldam went to Alpecin (who might have to do a little demotion themselves).

 

[Roku]

Cav and Bol are both represented by SEG. They decided to make the pair a "mandatory pack" in order to help Bol secure a good team.

 

[GenericBoonenFan]

Cav and Bol are both represented by SEG. They decided to make the pair a "mandatory pack" in order to help Bol secure a good team.

Source or speculation?

 

[Roku]

Source or speculation?

I think I read it on wielerflits: https://www.wielerflits.nl/nieuws/astana-maakt-met-truc-speciale-ruimte-voor-bol-en-cavendish/

 

[staubsauger]

I think I read it on wielerflits: https://www.wielerflits.nl/nieuws/astana-maakt-met-truc-speciale-ruimte-voor-bol-en-cavendish/

Wielerflits certainly gets a lot of inside information for a free site. Good job from them.

 

[Faserr]

It looks like Timo Kielich gets the promotion to the Alpecin - Deceunick World Tours team. Radsport-news.com reports that he is registered with the World Tours team for 2023. David van der Poel seems to step down.

 

[janraaskalt]

It looks like Timo Kielich gets the promotion to the Alpecin - Deceunick World Tours team. Radsport-news.com reports that he is registered with the World Tours team for 2023. David van der Poel seems to step down.

You can check it yourself: https://www.uci.org/team-details/17713

 

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didn't notice that they only had one neo-pro. So the previsouly reported team of 30 was never going to be within the rules anyway