Teams & Riders The Great Big Cycling Transfers, Extensions, and Rumours Thread

[Libertine Seguros]

Taco has too good a name to drop out of the pro ranks. Also, to be fair, he’s too good a cyclist.

Leaving aside his amusing surname, does anyone know why that Belgian kid, Cian, has an Irish sounding first name?

The same could be asked of Richard Carapaz, John Degenkolb, Dylan Teuns, John Gadret, Bryan Coquard, Anthony Turgis, Alex Aranburu, Fabio Jakobsen, and dozens of other riders out there whose parents elected to choose non-standard or imported variations of names for a variety of reasons. There's a potential for it to be reflective of heritage which may be buried somewhere in his bloodline, but it's more likely it may just be an affectation impacted by the more interconnected world we live in today.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

That’s slander and calumny. Please don’t push me to take legal actions to defend my good (nick)name.

Bad penis! Down boy.

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

The same could be asked of Richard Carapaz, John Degenkolb, Dylan Teuns, John Gadret, Bryan Coquard, Anthony Turgis, Alex Aranburu, Fabio Jakobsen, and dozens of other riders out there whose parents elected to choose non-standard or imported variations of names for a variety of reasons. There's a potential for it to be reflective of heritage which may be buried somewhere in his bloodline, but it's more likely it may just be an affectation impacted by the more interconnected world we live in today.

yeah, absolutely. But as your examples demonstrate the most common names that show up out of cultural context are English ones. It’s a little more unusual for Irish language names to show up like that in countries without a history of Irish immigration.

 

[TMP402]

yeah, absolutely. But as your examples demonstrate the most common names that show up out of cultural context are English ones. It’s a little more unusual for Irish language names to show up like that in countries without a history of Irish immigration.

Well, next season he can talk about this with Patrick Konrad, Liam Bertazzo, Sean De Bie and Kilian Frankiny.

 

[Koronin]

We definitely have some interesting conversations on this board.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Well, next season he can talk about this with Patrick Konrad, Liam Bertazzo, Sean De Bie and Kilian Frankiny.

Patrick is not a totally uncommon name in the German speaking world. Bertazzo's father is a Juventus supporter and has named his sons after Liam Brady and Omar Sivori. It's not outrageous to think, that De Bie is named after Kelly in the same manner, given that his father was a cyclist too, but I can't confirm it.

I have no info or assumptions about the origin of Kilian Frankiny's first name though.

 

[RedheadDane]

That’s slander and calumny. Please don’t push me to take legal actions to defend my good (nick)name.

The fact that the first part of your username gets censored in quotes just makes this even more amusing.

The same could be asked of Richard Carapaz, John Degenkolb, Dylan Teuns, John Gadret, Bryan Coquard, Anthony Turgis, Alex Aranburu, Fabio Jakobsen, and dozens of other riders out there whose parents elected to choose non-standard or imported variations of names for a variety of reasons.

So, after Jimmy and Anthony, those parents decided to give their youngest the very French-sounding name of Tanguy.
And, of course we know the reason for Fabio Jakobsen's name. Which, after what happened this year, almost became too dark...

 

[valentius borealis]

Based on the progession, he would have finished the race before it even started!
And why the hell does PCS have him listed as DNF - as opposed to OTL - for 2018? He made it to the velodrome! They even opened the gates to allow him to do a lap.

Because he let the broom wagon past.

 

[Mayomaniac]

Patrick is not a totally uncommon name in the German speaking world. Bertazzo's father is a Juventus supporter and has named his sons after Liam Brady and Omar Sivori. It's not outrageous to think, that De Bie is named after Kelly in the same manner, given that his father was a cyclist too, but I can't confirm it.

I have no info or assumptions about the origin of Kilian Frankiny's first name though.

Kilian isn't that uncommon in Western Austria and Switzerland.
People in Austria calling me Kilian instead of my actual name has happened multiple times.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Kilian isn't that uncommon in Western Austria and Switzerland.
People in Austria calling me Kilian instead of my actual name has happened multiple times.

If your name is Ian, i'm not sure it's a nickname
Thanks for the info, I'd never come across the name before, only as Cillian in Ireland and Britain.

 

[GenericBoonenFan]

So, 'Piet' has the same meaning in Dutch as 'D.ick' has in English?

BTW, and totally off-topic (but I guess we're already heading in that direction): I remember reading somewhere that a lot of Dutch surnames have their origin from the Napoleonic times; essentially the French told the people in the area that they had to have family names - can't remember why... - but they didn't actually specify that it had to be serious names, and thus we've ended up with a bunch of people named "Outofthepants"...

This is definitly true for Dutch names like "Bol" (meaning bol), "Boom" (literraly: tree) etc, however Uijtdebroeks is a Flemish surname. We had surnames somewhat before Napoleon and therefore you won't find many of those "stupid" surnames in Flandres.
Uijtdebroeks btw means something like "From the swamp", since Broeke is an old dutch word meaning "swamp", however nowadays it only means pants.

 

[RedheadDane]

Uijtdebroeks btw means something like "From the swamp", since Broeke is an old dutch word meaning "swamp", however nowadays it only means pants.

How the *** does a word go from meaning "swamp" to meaning "pants"?

BTW, what does 'Bol' mean?

 

[GenericBoonenFan]

How the *** does a word go from meaning "swamp" to meaning "pants"?

BTW, what does 'Bol' mean?

Ow sorry, Bol means something like globe, ball, sphere. Although in dutch it is mostly used in the meaning of "sphere".

 

[GenericBoonenFan]

How the *** does a word go from meaning "swamp" to meaning "pants"?

BTW, what does 'Bol' mean?

On the topic of broek going from "swamp" to "pants", sometimes words get lost in time, however this particular one is still very recognisible. Brussels got is name from "Broekzele" which means "settlement near the Broek".

And it's not like the meaning shifted, it was just a case of one word meaning two different things. A homonym if you will, a bit like "ruler" in English, it can be a measurement tool, or a dude running some ***.

 

[RedheadDane]

On the topic of broek going from "swamp" to "pants", sometimes words get lost in time, however this particular one is still very recognisible. Brussels got is name from "Broekzele" which means "settlement near the Broek".

Naah, I'm just gonna assume you have some very weird fashion habits in Belgium.

 

[GenericBoonenFan]

Naah, I'm just gonna assume you have some very weird fashion habits in Belgium.

I edited my last post, explaining it some more

 

[BlueRoads]

If your name is Ian, i'm not sure it's a nickname
Thanks for the info, I'd never come across the name before, only as Cillian in Ireland and Britain.

Kilian is a pretty common name here, mostly among under 20s, though. Cian on the other hand sounds very unfamiliar to me.

 

[tobydawq]

Kilian is a pretty common name here, mostly among under 20s, though. Cian on the other hand sounds very unfamiliar to me.

I fully expect Cian to have two brothers, Block and Yallow, and a sister, Mogenta.

Their parents are printer enthusiasts but didn't have the rights to use the toner names.

 

[hayneplane]

Don’t know why DQS would snub Naesen without even talking to him. Good and unselfish rider who would fit into the group ethic of the Wolfpack very well and IMO as a DQS rider would be like an upgraded model of Lampaert.

 

[Bonimenier]

Don’t know why DQS would snub Naesen without even talking to him. Good and unselfish rider who would fit into the group ethic of the Wolfpack very well and IMO as a DQS rider would be like an upgraded model of Lampaert.

Yeah, the strange thing is that they didn't even answer. I can understand that they wouldn't have enough money to give him a contract, but who knows how willing Naesen was to take less for the opportunity to get a big win with DQS.

 

[BlueRoads]

Yeah, the strange thing is that they didn't even answer. I can understand that they wouldn't have enough money to give him a contract, but who knows how willing Naesen was to take less for the opportunity to get a big win with DQS.

Yes, there are two possible explanations for me: a) Naesen already asked for a ridiculously high salary or privileges in the messages or, b), more likely, Lefevere is just... Lefevere. Extremely impolite to not even answer, even if you're not interested.

 

[tobydawq]

Yes, there are two possible explanations for me: a) Naesen already asked for a ridiculously high salary or privileges in the messages or, b), more likely, Lefevere is just... Lefevere. Extremely impolite to not even answer, even if you're not interested.

And today or tomorrow he will somehow make Naesen seem like the bad guy here.

 

[RedheadDane]

I edited my last post, explaining it some more

Nope, sorry. Not gonna change my assumptions about your people's fashion choices. Of course, I have no idea how you'd turn a swamp into a pair of pants, but then again... I'm not Belgian.

 

[Ricco']

I fully expect Cian to have two brothers, Block and Yallow, and a sister, Mogenta.

Their parents are printer enthusiasts but didn't have the rights to use the toner names.

If was called instead Cien I bet that Lidl would splash their cash to bring him to Deceuninck.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

If was called instead Cien I bet that Lidl would splash their cash to bring him to Deceuninck.

I would totally root for a rider named Trattoria Alfredo.