Teams & Riders The Jonas Vingegaard is like Chris Harper, but with a lot more power thread

[Froome]

The most funny thing is that you keep saying that he could have won the Vuelta if he wanted.
He didn't won it.
And he couldn't had won it.
But he wanted alright.
He finished 2nd this way, and he would've finished 2nd the other way also.

Of course he could had won the vuelta if he wanted, unless you are innocent to think he couldn't take more 8 s on angliru or in puerto de linares.

 

[scribers]

Vingo's ITT wasn't that good. Which is weird after his otherworldly ITT at le tour. He had a chance to win the Vuelta during the ITT. Same goes for Rog. As such, Kuss defended his position there and also multiple times afterwards.

Listen, if there was a better competitor out there to draw Rog or Vingo up the road assuming Kuss couldn't also follow, they might have won it that way too. Their only option to win in spite of all that was be an a$$ or resist being an a$$. They barely chose the latter.

 

[Blanco]

Of course he could had won the vuelta if he wanted, unless you are innocent to think he couldn't take more 8 s on angliru or in puerto de linares.

On Angliru he took as much as he could. On Puerto de Linares maybe he could've took time on Kuss. On Roglic certainly not. And without that head start that Roglic gave him on Tourmalet and Bejes, if the Vuelta was raced properly by all of them, there's no chance he would beat Roglic.

 

[Froome]

On Angliru he took as much as he could. On Puerto de Linares maybe he could've took time on Kuss. On Roglic certainly not. And without that head start that Roglic gave him on Tourmalet and Bejes, if the Vuelta was raced properly by all of them, there's no chance he would beat Roglic.

He wouldn't need to take time on roglic on puerto de linares because roglic was already behind him, but you agree with me that he could gain more time on kuss, so he could had won the vuelta if he wanted.

 

[kn0s]

Vingo's ITT wasn't that good. Which is weird after his otherworldly ITT at le tour. He had a chance to win the Vuelta during the ITT. Same goes for Rog. As such, Kuss defended his position there and also multiple times afterwards.

Listen, if there was a better competitor out there to draw Rog or Vingo up the road assuming Kuss couldn't also follow, they might have won it that way too. Their only option to win in spite of all that was be an a$$ or resist being an a$$. They barely chose the latter.

He was sick on the ITT, that's why. He said he didn't feel 100% till around Bejes. This is why he more or less cracked himself on tourmalet, going solo for way to long.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

He was sick on the ITT, that's why. He said he didn't feel 100% till around Bejes. This is why he more or less cracked himself on tourmalet, going solo for way to long.

Vingo was well below his best in the first half of the race and the TT was his weakest moment. During stages 16 and 17 he was noticeably stronger though.

 

[scribers]

We shall see. I fully expect Vingo to ride the tour vuelta double just about every year he can. Ala Froome. Let’s see if he can maintain a semblance of July during another part of the year

 

[Froome]

Vingo was well below his best in the first half of the race and the TT was his weakest moment. During stages 16 and 17 he was noticeably stronger though.

Yes, but he faded in the last km of tourmalet because he wasn't in his best shape. He even himself said that in the post interview after tourmalet.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Yes, but he faded in the last km of tourmalet because he wasn't in his best shape. He even himself said that in the post interview after tourmalet.

Sure, he was riding alone and payed for it at the end as he wasn't in top form. Still, his overall performance in Vuelta mountains has to be considered very, very good given his huge peak at the Tour. I don't recall anyone being that good in Vuelta after a superb Tour performance.

 

[scribers]

Froome. Contador

 

[Ilmaestro99]

You have to be smoking some good stuff to think roglic would beat Vingegard in la vuelta if they raced

 

[VayaVayaVaya]

Or just watched Javalambre, the ITT, Angliru and how Vingegaard’s time gains played out.

 

[Netserk]

You have to be smoking some good stuff to think roglic would beat Vingegard in la vuelta if they raced

If they raced from the start, Rogla would have had a nice buffer from the TTT.

 

[scribers]

You have to be smoking some good stuff to think roglic would beat Vingegard in la vuelta if they raced

Vingo lost 40+ seconds to rog in the only stage they actually raced. Everything else they were saddled by Kuss

 

[bNator]

You have to be smoking some good stuff to think roglic would beat Vingegard in la vuelta if they raced

Oh yes, the incredibly original “you have to be smoking” argument… You have to be smoking some good stuff to think Roglic could ever beat Vingo in TT. Hold on.. 🤔

 

[Berniece]

You have to be smoking some good stuff to think roglic would beat Vingegard in la vuelta if they raced

Vingegaard was able to hold on to Roglic when he had the shitters. He would’ve won that Vuelta easily

 

[scribers]

At least Remco doesn't make excuses for his performances

 

[Froome]

Oh yes, the incredibly original “you have to be smoking” argument… You have to be smoking some good stuff to think Roglic could ever beat Vingo in TT. Hold on.. 🤔

At least Vingo didn't lost a Tour france, by losing a TT for pogacar. It's the opposite, he wins TTs and the Tour against pogacar.

 

[Lequack]

The secret training of Vingegaard

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJEkfiNrjfU

 

[bNator]

At least Vingo didn't lost a Tour france, by losing a TT for pogacar. It's the opposite, he wins TTs and the Tour against pogacar.

Trolling is an art that’s not for everyone. You, my friend, need practice

 

[Froome]

Trolling is an art that’s not for everyone. You, my friend, need practice

I'm not trolling, what i said is a fact that happened.

 

[Rob5091]

https://cyclinguptodate.com/cycling...r-jonas-vingegaards-2024-tour-de-france-hopes
Jonas Vingegaard will be looking for a third straight Tour de France title in 2024. Following the reveal of the profiles and routes however, one stage in particular concerns the Scandinavian media.

"I am completely convinced that he is already terrified of the ninth stage, which contains no less than 14 gravel sectors," analyses TV 2's cycling expert Magnus Drivenes of the Dane's hopes of a Maillot Jaune hattrick. "They were in the same area in the women's Tour last year, when there was a lot of drama."

 

[Boehmand]

We shall see. I fully expect Vingo to ride the tour vuelta double just about every year he can. Ala Froome. Let’s see if he can maintain a semblance of July during another part of the year

I think the Tour will be his only GT in 24, as I expect him to attempt the triple in 2025.

I think it's a highly unrealistic goal in this day and age, with the competition around, but both he and his wife have entertained the idea publicly (not with a specific year put on it though), so I could see him try it if the 2025 routes and dates make it at all feasible.

 

[Boehmand]

https://cyclinguptodate.com/cycling...r-jonas-vingegaards-2024-tour-de-france-hopes
Jonas Vingegaard will be looking for a third straight Tour de France title in 2024. Following the reveal of the profiles and routes however, one stage in particular concerns the Scandinavian media.

"I am completely convinced that he is already terrified of the ninth stage, which contains no less than 14 gravel sectors," analyses TV 2's cycling expert Magnus Drivenes of the Dane's hopes of a Maillot Jaune hattrick. "They were in the same area in the women's Tour last year, when there was a lot of drama."

Weird they asked a Norwegian commentator, when there are so many Danish ones available with far better knowledge of Vingegaard.

 

[Rob5091]

Weird they asked a Norwegian commentator, when there are so many Danish ones available with far better knowledge of Vingegaard.

That was probably because it was Norway's TV2 and not Denmark's?