The Mike Anderson story

[MarkvW]

Wow, this is one bizarro thread!

Good luck Mr. Anderson. I hope you have escaped the Matrix.

 

[DirtyWorks]

...There are some people we are not allowed to challenge here, and I should be more respectful of that.

Sincere apologies.

That is the cleverest "f**k you" I've read in a long while. Maybe Patton Boggs is hiring the interns now?

Dammit NeWorld!! Handing out DSM5 diagnoses was going to be my second career. Sigh... Back to the drawing board...

More seriously, all the best to you Mike.

 

[perfessor]

Mike, yes, with respect to the specific questions I posed to you about your recollection of what the bike shop deal with Armstrong were, I should disclose that my questions were more pointed and specific for a reason: I'm a lawyer, and I tend to ask questions about such things because really, it's only the specifics that can give the validity or invalidity of this sort of thing any substance.

You're a lawyer?
30 years experience?
I don't believe you.

 

[Susan Westemeyer]

What an explosion here overnight.......

The patience is at end. Stay on topic or face a ban.

Susan

 

[the big ring]

Thank you.
Rikki Tikki Tave is hard at work searching out the serpents in the garden.

Love it.

 

[ChewbaccaD]

Thank you Mike. I have been pretty busy with school, so I didn't read the article until this morning. Interesting, I found out about it from my wife. She knows of my dislike of Armstrong, but doesn't pay too much attention to it or cycling. Yesterday, she said that a patient of her's posted the article on his facebook, and she read it. She was blown away at level Armstrong went to **** with your life. I explained to her some of the other background I have learned from here over the years, and how it seems that almost everyone who comes into contact with Armstrong sooner or later gets shafted in some way. You have a new supporter in her.

Read through some of the crap posted on this thread. The funniest (and stupidest) comment by far was the suggestion that you wouldn't be fit for academia. Hell, academia is filled with people who aren't fit for academia, so I think you are much more suited than most. Meh, subtle shots at credibility are all Armstrong fans have left because Armstrong has had his results erased from history.

I hope things are well with you Mike; thanks for putting the story out there, and don't fret too much about not fighting against the unholy forces that infect the downtrodden workers across the globe, I understand you have a business to run, so you can be forgiven for not charging windmills.

 

[aphronesis]

Thank you Mike. I have been pretty busy with school, so I didn't read the article until this morning. Interesting, I found out about it from my wife. She knows of my dislike of Armstrong, but doesn't pay too much attention to it or cycling. Yesterday, she said that a patient of her's posted the article on his facebook, and she read it. She was blown away at level Armstrong went to **** with your life. I explained to her some of the other background I have learned from here over the years, and how it seems that almost everyone who comes into contact with Armstrong sooner or later gets shafted in some way. You have a new supporter in her.

Read through some of the crap posted on this thread. The funniest (and stupidest) comment by far was the suggestion that you wouldn't be fit for academia. Hell, academia is filled with people who aren't fit for academia, so I think you are much more suited than most. Meh, subtle shots at credibility are all Armstrong fans have left because Armstrong has had his results erased from history.

I hope things are well with you Mike; thanks for putting the story out there, and don't fret too much about not fighting against the unholy forces that infect the downtrodden workers across the globe, I understand

you have a business to run, so you can be forgiven for not charging windmills.

Thanks for proving my point. I know (because you say it at every chance you get) that you're busy with school and so speed reading is all you can manage, but what I said is that Mike may not have found academia a more positive place.

And you are dead right of course that if you're busy running a business than no social awareness is needed. Unless one's personal livelihood is impacted. Brilliantly stated...

 

[Benotti69]

Thanks for proving my point. I know (because you say it at every chance you get) that you're busy with school and so speed reading is all you can manage, but what I said is that Mike may not have found academia a more positive place.

And you are dead right of course that if you're busy running a business than no social awareness is needed. Unless one's personal livelihood is impacted of course. Brilliantly stated...

Chewie did not state this.

 

[aphronesis]

Chewie did not state this.

In its own hyperbolic and crudely reductive way, it is the basic implication of the last paragraph.

 

[Benotti69]

In its own hyperbolic and crudely reductive way, it is the basic implication of the last paragraph.

No he didn't.

 

[aphronesis]

No he didn't.

He didn't what? Syntax continuity? By all means B offer your own gloss.

 

[BotanyBay]

Did anyone else notice that Ms. Crow might have been in the picture before that day on the beach in Santa Barbara?

Mike, excellent article. The naysayers say you're just another hater. If so, Lance can claim a new world record. That of the world's nicest guy in the world who also happens to have amassed the world's largest collection of haters. Quite the duality. Only extraordinary people have ever pulled-off that kind of double.

 

[Benotti69]

He didn't what? Syntax continuity? By all means B offer your own gloss.

Chewis will no doubt respond and put you back in yor box.

 

[aphronesis]

Chewis will no doubt respond and put you back in yor box.

So your contribution here is needed for what?

 

[Anonymous]

So your contribution here is needed for what?

Speaking of, when was your last on topic post in this thread?

To Mike,

Someone up thread mentioned that, in the end, you have won. You have everything Lance doesn't have.

A great take on the situation in my opinion.

 

[ChrisE]

So your contribution here is needed for what?

BB has TFF's back while TFF is working hard in class learning things about law. In return, TFF tells BB what to think about lawyer stuff. It is a recipricol relationship.

TBH though I think you are reading more into his post than is there. By saying somebody should not chase windmills does not mean they should not be socially conscious.

 

[aphronesis]

BB has TFF's back while TFF is working hard in class learning things about law. In return, TFF tells BB what to think about lawyer stuff. It is a recipricol relationship.

TBH though I think you are reading more into his post than is there. By saying somebody should not chase windmills does not mean they should not be socially conscious.

TBH it was more the tripe about the global downtrodden that I was reacting to.

@scott it was probably around the point when i stated my take on the situation and then the squabbling began. what about you? got something more than some feel good leave it to beaver sensitivity to impart?

 

[Anonymous]

TBH honest, it was more the tripe about the global downtrodden that I was reacting to.

@scott it was probably around the point when i stated my take on the situation and then the squabbling began. what about you? got something more than some feel good leave it to beaver sensitivity to impart?

Nope.

I like Mike. I think his version of events has been pretty well documented. Not much to argue about IMO.

In case you forgot, the thread is titled "The Mike Anderson Story."

 

[LauraLyn]

Nope.

I like Mike. I think his version of events has been pretty well documented. Not much to argue about IMO.

In case you forgot, the thread is titled "The Mike Anderson Story."

We should re-title the thread: "The Great Mike Anderson Story".

 

[aphronesis]

Nope.

I like Mike. I think his version of events has been pretty well documented. Not much to argue about IMO.

In case you forgot, the thread is titled "The Mike Anderson Story."

Yep, and I responded to that version of events in a fairly measured way. Other, venerable posters, took issue with that read however. Not my problem. Next time I'll send a hallmark card so we can all be on the same page.

 

[ChrisE]

We should re-title the thread: "The Great Mike Anderson Story".

OK, you have now done what I thought was not possible; you have pushed me to supporting the clinic cult in aggressively attacking other opinions.

 

[QuickStepper]

Have you considered emailing or calling Lance to get his side of the story? As a respectful lawyer I would assume you would perform due diligence and get comprehensive statements from both of them.

Of course you will report back to this thread with Lance's response right?

Thank you in advance.

NW

Aside from the silliness of your post and its inherently insulting tone, your comment makes little sense. First, Mike is here at the Clinic so I asked him the questions directly. Why don't I make an inquiry of Armstrong directly like I did with Mike? Because (1) I don't have a Twitter account and don't want one; (2) I have no way of making such an inquiry directly to Armstrong as I do with Mike at the Clinic; and (3) Armstrong, in the published "reply" to the article about Mike's side of the story in Outside (which evidently wasn't written by Armstrong but by Fabiani)essentially denies there ever was such a deal as Mike has described, so it really makes no sense to ask him questions about the form that his investment was going to take (partership, lender, or some other structure) when he denies any intention of making such a deal to fund Mike in a bike shop venture in the first instance.

Mike PM'd me to say essentially that he does not wish to further respond to those questions, and I respect that. It's his choice to tell us as much or as little as he wishes to share. I think it's pretty cool that he's come to the Clinic and at least responded to some of the questions put to him by others. The day Lance Armstrong shows up here at the Clinic, I'll be sure to ask those questions too, along with other much more imporant questions than whether he had a deal with Mike Anderson to help Mike set up a bike shop.

 

[ChewbaccaD]

Chewis will no doubt respond and put you back in yor box.

Thanks for the support. The best response to him is no response. Bringing the plight of the oppressed worker to bear on Mike was bad enough; doubling down by bringing it into a response to me makes enough of its own putrid gravy to announce its presence without any aiding or abetting by anyone else. A first year HS debate team member wouldn't use such craptastic rhetoric, so lets just let it present its odious presence without further comment.

The game the newbie brigade is playing is called "plausible deniability." It's best to just ignore the lot of them as the whole point of that game is to avoid taking a direct hit. Let them have the prizes of their game as nobody is fooled in reality. Intertubes winning isn't that hard, but they still have to wake up in the physical world, and in that world, Armstrong is a busted doping narcissist. All the talk of the global worker will never change that, nor will expounding upon your lengthy legal career and the fees you charge, nor will using the name of a psychic.

I may not like ChrisH, but at least he doesn't pretend to be something he isn't. I'll take his antagonism any day to this tired old game that has been played many times before in relation to Armstrong.

Cheers.

 

[aphronesis]

Thanks for the support. The best response to him is no response. Bringing the plight of the oppressed worker to bear on Mike was bad enough; doubling down by bringing it into a response to me makes enough of its own putrid gravy to announce its presence without any aiding or abetting by anyone else. A first year HS debate team member wouldn't use such craptastic rhetoric, so lets just let it present its odious presence without further comment.

The game the newbie brigade is playing is called "plausible deniability." It's best to just ignore the lot of them as the whole point of that game is to avoid taking a direct hit. Let them have the prizes of their game as nobody is fooled in reality. Intertubes winning isn't that hard, but they still have to wake up in the physical world, and in that world, Armstrong is a busted doping narcissist. All the talk of the global worker will never change that, nor will expounding upon your lengthy legal career and the fees you charge, nor will using the name of a psychic.

I may not like ChrisH, but at least he doesn't pretend to be something he isn't. I'll take his antagonism any day to this tired old game that has been played many times before in relation to Armstrong.

Cheers.

You're the only one who invoked that category: both imagining it to have existed in my post and then writing it in your own. You've been doing with me a lot lately. Maybe a bit too much time sparring with the rubes on Slowtwitch....

It's not clear to me why you think that any disagreement with the terms or interpretation of the situation makes you think that it's an attempt to deny what has happened?

I'd bet serious cash that you were still in front of the television huzzahing LA long after I stopped giving it any thought what so ever.

 

[ChewbaccaD]

You're the only one who invoked that category: both imagining it to have existed in my post and then writing it in your own. You've been doing with me a lot lately. Maybe a bit too much time sparring with the rubes on Slowtwitch....

It's not clear to me why you think that any disagreement with the terms or interpretation of the situation makes you think that it's an attempt to deny what has happened?

I'd bet serious cash that you were still in front of the television huzzahing LA long after I stopped giving it any thought what so ever.

You're still giving it thought...recognition of reality isn't your strong suit, is it?