As a Mathieu fan, I feel disappointed and even shocked by all this but its time to let this be solved among the parts involved instead of doing quick judgements
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There is no way Van der Poel enters a screaming fest with a few teens away from the team and hotel staff if he shows basic, professional behavior.What a sad thread this is. The folks here act like it's been confirmed that MvdP did something wrong.
We don't know the whole story yet, wait until Tuesday. Chances are just as likely the girls have 1/2 ar$ed parents indulging their children's behaviour trying to milk a situation with a prominent sportsman.There is no way Van der Poel enters a screaming fest with a few teens away from the team and hotel staff if he shows basic, professional behavior.
I don't know how things normally go, but isn't it utterly bizarre that professional sportsmen are mixed with ordinary tourists in hotels? At least the rooms around the riders should be 'tourist-free', no?The Dutch federation needs to take a leaf out of the Belgian's book and book out an entire hotel for their whole federation next time
There is no way Van der Poel enters a screaming fest with a few teens away from the team and hotel staff if he shows basic, professional behavior.
So that's where the heroic defense comes from?weird people in far away lands trying to feel important
So that's where the heroic defense comes from?
I just think it's a bit of a stretch to think police gets involved and arrests are made just because MvdP is acting accordingly in the given situation
the important part for me is he denies touching anyone himself. And the only ones withness were the girls themselves and Mathieu. No parents or anything around. So unless there is more definitive proof I tend to believe the adult more than the kids. Especially because kids will try to come up with anything when caught with wrong doing.As a Mathieu fan, I feel disappointed and even shocked by all this but its time to let this be solved among the parts involved instead of doing quick judgements
Welcome to 2022. Isn't this the usual?What a sad thread this is. The folks here act like it's been confirmed that MvdP did something wrong.
You believe in guilty until proven innocent?So that's where the heroic defense comes from?
I just think it's a bit of a stretch to think police gets involved and arrests are made just because MvdP is acting accordingly in the given situation
He did say it himself, in a different interview than the one on Sporza. He clarified he didn't touch anyone, he went after them but nothing more."I went to bed early and many children in the hallway of my room found it necessary to knock on the door continuously. After a few times I was done with it. I didn't ask so nicely to stop. Then the police were called and I was taken," Van der Poel explained to Sporza. It was also reported that Van der Poel told his team manager that he did not touch the teenagers.
If he didn't actually touch them, which no one has confirmed is MvdP's story, then he really is a victim here. But we will see what comes out over the next few days, which may or may not clear anything up.
Oh man, what a mess for mvdpHe did say it himself, in a different interview than the one on Sporza. He clarified he didn't touch anyone, he went after them but nothing more.
This. No matter the details, you don’t put yourself in that situation, ever.There is no way Van der Poel enters a screaming fest with a few teens away from the team and hotel staff if he shows basic, professional behavior.
I assume something must have happened for NSW police to bother actually arresting a white person in this scenario. At best it's a case of dipshit australian teens vs a probably highly strung Dutch person. There can only be one winner.So that's where the heroic defense comes from?
I just think it's a bit of a stretch to think police gets involved and arrests are made just because MvdP is acting accordingly in the given situation
That's pretty much also my take on the whole situation.the important part for me is he denies touching anyone himself. And the only ones withness were the girls themselves and Mathieu. No parents or anything around. So unless there is more definitive proof I tend to believe the adult more than the kids. Especially because kids will try to come up with anything when caught with wrong doing.
Regardless, he screwed himself by even engaging with these kids.That's pretty much also my take on the whole situation.
Already at the beginning of the year this country wanted to be in the news for harassing a superstar athlete...
I believe it’s a good legal assumption. I don’t believe it’s a good epistemological assumption.You believe in guilty until proven innocent?
Also, have you been in a hotel recently? There is very few if any staff around in most of them, even mid-end ones. Someone comes knocking at your room and the appropriate thing to do is to tell them off. You're right in that he really shouldn't have opened the door being who he is though. Never assume anyone has good intentions, particularly at 4AM.
But yeah, let's see the facts of the case before jumping to any conclusions.
Interested to hear where you are from so I can dig up some news stories from your far away landAlready at the beginning of the year this country wanted to be in the news for harassing a superstar athlete...