The myth about "tough" climbs.

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Bavarianrider said:
Maybe you have no clue, face it :D

Just about everyone has disagreed with you. The gradient and length does have a lot to do with it. It takes more effort to produce 300 W on a 10km climb @ 10% than a 10km @ 3%. It is simple logic.

Shall I remind you of your morinc statements about Tony Martin in Liege?
 
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auscyclefan94 said:
Just about everyone has disagreed with you. The gradient and length does have a lot to do with it. It takes more effort to produce 300 W on a 10km climb @ 10% than a 10km @ 3%. It is simple logic.

Shall I remind you of your morinc statements about Tony Martin in Liege?

Like i am the first who wronly predicted the position of a rider. Yes surely that never happened to you
 
Watts are a measure of the amount of power produced per HOUR.
So, riding at 300w/hour for 1 hour is the same amount of power regardless of the terrain or distance.

If the ride is uphill, then the distance will be less - but it is still 300w/hour for 1 hour.

The number of watts needed to produce a certain speed is largely determined by the weight of the rider - lighter riders need fewer watts, heavy riders need more.
A light rider doing 300w/hour is going to be faster than a heavy rider who is also at 300w/hour.

Jay Kosta
Endwell NY USA
 
Yes, but once again this is making the assumption that everything is totally constant, so that when you reach that peak output, you can maintain it constantly and uninterruptedly. Climbs aren't like that. And it's harder to accelerate back to that peak output on a steeper climb because of inertia and gravity, and THAT is where the increased difficulty comes in.

There are exceptions - Torre from Covilhã is 6,3% but mostly consistent, whereas Torre from Seia is longer at 5,1% but harder because it has false flats, small descents and ramps of up to 17% meaning you can't get into rhythm and spend a lot of time accelerating and decelerating. But the general rule of thumb is that, because of this increased difficulty in returning to peak output, the steeper climb is harder.