The New World Champion! Appreciation

[Angliru]

the hate will not stop. everytime cav wins or doesn't win in the rainbow, we'll have to listen to this dog*&^t.

btw, i'm not sure that greipel has any actual fans. but everything else you said is true.

Oh, so Greipel is fair game but Cavendish isn't? You should let us all know how the game is played up front, then we can all more ably follow your lead.

 

[jordan5000]

Boasson Hagen 8th
Farrar 10th
Galimzyanov 11th
Sagan 12th
Bennatti 14th
Boom 29th
Sutton 72nd
O'Grady 91st
Flecha 95th
And countless others finished 8 minutes back or did not finish.

The fact Cancellara came 4th shows it wasnt a pure flat sprinters course.

Please tell that to some of the other posters here lol and anyways my point is that everybody was sprinting for first and Cavendish beat them all, the rainbow jersey is well deserved.

 

[ImmaculateKadence]

Still haven't seen any overhead footage of the final 300 metres or so, I thought he'd lost it, but wow did he find a way through.

Everyone knew the sprint was going to be chaotic; WC field sprints are always chaotic, even the non-sprinters are looking for lady luck to shine upon them in final 100 meters. People say Cav can't win dicey sprints without a lead out...well he came from about 10 wheels back to do it. Okay, but he's not a worthy WC because it was a sprint with easy and uninspiring parcours...BS! It was a beautiful well deserved win. The only reason it was easy is because Cav made it look so; he's that good.

 

[El Pistolero]

I'm still not sure if El P is as dumb as he seems, or if it's just a brilliant s**** of a 9 year old internet warrior.

The constant deliberate missing of obvious irony, and pasting of irrelevant facts from wikipedia points strongly towards s****.

My post never said Cav was the only one that did it. I said I don't like cyclists that do that.

I'm not sure if you're as arrogant as you seem or just British.

 

[Midnightfright]

My post never said Cav was the only one that did it. I said I don't like cyclists that do that.

I'm not sure if you're as arrogant as you seem or just British.

I like u el pistol but I'm not sure that makes sense are you saying that if your British that your arrogance isnt as it appears? So r u saying that British people have a national tendency to appear arrogant but there actually not? I'm confused.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

My post never said Cav was the only one that did it. I said I don't like cyclists that do that.

I'm not sure if you're as arrogant as you seem or just British.

Then there must be very few cyclists that you like.

 

[Midnightfright]

Oh, so Greipel is fair game but Cavendish isn't? You should let us all know how the game is played up front, then we can all more ably follow your lead.

how could u possibly believe the Vanilla Gorilla has no fans. Absolutely shocking.

 

[goggalor]

The fact Cancellara came 4th shows it wasnt a pure flat sprinters course.

 

[Angliru]

Everyone knew the sprint was going to be chaotic; WC field sprints are always chaotic, even the non-sprinters are looking for lady luck to shine upon them in final 100 meters. People say Cav can't win dicey sprints without a lead out...well he came from about 10 wheels back to do it. Okay, but he's not a worthy WC because it was a sprint with easy and uninspiring parcours...BS! It was a beautiful well deserved win. The only reason it was easy is because Cav made it look so; he's that good.

I wouldn't say he made it look easy. Goss gave him a good run for his money so it wasn't a cakewalk but Cavendish did show me a lot with his coming from so far back to take the win. He's worthy because he won, easy parcours or not. Still I was rooting for Freire to take it but it just wasn't meant to be. Had the uphill to the line been a bit steeper and longer, Oscarito would be celebrating his fourth wc (In my own dream world of course! ).

 

[El Pistolero]

I like u el pistol but I'm not sure that makes sense are you saying that if your British that your arrogance isnt as it appears? So r u saying that British people have a national tendency to appear arrogant but there actually not? I'm confused.

It's like "are you really this arrogant or is this just normal British behavior?"

Twas just a joke though, not something to take serious.

 

[El Pistolero]

Then there must be very few cyclists that you like.

That's true. I'm indifferent to most cyclists.

I like Gilbert, Contador, Cancellara, Offredo, Vansummeren(because he's always willing to sacrifice him self for his leader), I kinda like the new Cadel Evans, Sagan, Greipel, Jens Voigt(same reason as Vansummeren), Giovanni Visconti, Michele Scarponi, Leukemans, Sylvain Chavanel, Vinokourov, Pablo Lastras, Wout Poels, etc

Of course all of them use some races for training, but most of the time they're trying their best in most races they enter.

 

[doperhopper]

Please tell that to some of the other posters here lol and anyways my point is that everybody was sprinting for first and Cavendish beat them all, the rainbow jersey is well deserved.

Well, why not?

Just one advice for the organizers: skip the boring 260 km, and prepare also a second race on a proper, selective circuit.

Or maybe one can have "two in one" and arrange some "intermediate sprint" for the sprinter World champ, say, after easy 100 km (team trains will stop all the attacks), and then move the race to the tougher, hilly and selective circuit for the rest.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Out of interest, when they had the World's in Zolder, you weren't watching that day?

No, I wasn't. I've watched the summary, and that'll do for me, thanks.

Clearly the course was a joke but Cav and the British team can only do their job.
Plenty of other sprinters also got an armchair ride but blew their chance by being too slow or badly positioned or both.

Points winner in the Tour and Vuelta, has an M-S-R plenty of GT stage wins so he's a worthy World champ in my eyes.

Oh he's a worthy World Champ alright. Just that the race wasn't a worthy World Championships. No sense of occasion, no excitement, nothing. It wasn't even as challenging as Vattenfall.

Not a Cavendish fan but not a hater either. This may have already been said in here, but the people here who are pi$$ed off he won, wouldn't you be the same one's mocking him if he didn't win on this course?

This is probably true - though many are only pi$$ed off he won because the race was dull. If the race was exciting and he won, then you'd see a lot less whining (but the whining you saw would be a lot more personal, given many are more angry at the course robbing us of interesting racing than at the British team and Cavendish for doing a brilliant job on the course they were given).

Txurruka, Voigts, Hoogerland, maybe Voeckler (although he has his haters too), a couple Colombians and that guy from Eritrea, Vino and some other Eastern Europeans with unpronouncable names and Floyd Landis [eta: and fill up the rest of the roster with some Frenchies who never win anything but always get into breaks]. The team might not win any meaningful races, but it would have the longest Appreciation thread on cyclingnews ever.

Give us Jacky Durand as DS and a couple more Basques and we're sorted.

Boasson Hagen 8th
Farrar 10th
Galimzyanov 11th
Sagan 12th
Bennatti 14th
Boom 29th
Sutton 72nd
O'Grady 91st
Flecha 95th
And countless others finished 8 minutes back or did not finish.

The fact Cancellara came 4th shows it wasnt a pure flat sprinters course.

It was a pure flat sprinters course - but the sprint itself being slightly uphill meant that the sprint wasn't your typical dash. You would maybe have thought it suited Goss a bit better, but Cavendish was just too good on the day. It wasn't an ideal sprint for Cav, but ultimately he's the best in the world by enough to still have it when it doesn't totally suit him.

 

[El Pistolero]

No, I wasn't. I've watched the summary, and that'll do for me, thanks.

Oh he's a worthy World Champ alright. Just that the race wasn't a worthy World Championships. No sense of occasion, no excitement, nothing. It wasn't even as challenging as Vattenfall.

This is probably true - though many are only pi$$ed off he won because the race was dull. If the race was exciting and he won, then you'd see a lot less whining (but the whining you saw would be a lot more personal, given many are more angry at the course robbing us of interesting racing than at the British team and Cavendish for doing a brilliant job on the course they were given).

Give us Jacky Durand as DS and a couple more Basques and we're sorted.

It was a pure flat sprinters course - but the sprint itself being slightly uphill meant that the sprint wasn't your typical dash. You would maybe have thought it suited Goss a bit better, but Cavendish was just too good on the day. It wasn't an ideal sprint for Cav, but ultimately he's the best in the world by enough to still have it when it doesn't totally suit him.

According to Teamskyfans the last stage of the Tour this year was not really a sprinter stage

 

[sagard]

Well said. Cance seems like he is working on his finish because time trialing away from the field isn't always going to work.

 

[Parrulo]

Well said. Cance seems like he is working on his finish because time trialing away from the field isn't always going to work.

he better start sprinting on the drops tho doing it like he does just looks weird lol

 

[Anonymous]

According to Teamskyfans the last stage of the Tour this year was not really a sprinter stage

I did not say that.

Liverpool beat Man Utd in the League, that does not mean the league is the Fa Cup.

 

[El Pistolero]

I did not say that.

Liverpool beat Man Utd in the League, that does not mean the league is the Fa Cup.

Using Cancellara getting fourth as an argument that it wasn't really just a flat race just doesn't work. Cancellara isn't slow and can place him self well in these bunch sprints. He got fifth at the Champs Elysées as well.

And I know you did not say that, it was bit of sarcasm on my part.

 

[The Hitch]

No, you are. What's the point in stating Cav rides the Ronde? He insults the race by saying he could actually win it some day. He sucks at it. He's horrible every time he rode it. He should never ride it again and let someone that's actually good at it have a chance of riding it. I wonder who's place he'll steal for the Ronde next year when he's going to Sky.

He shouldnt ride races he cant win? WTF? who created that rule?

I would say hes paying the race respect by riding it.

As for insulting it by saying he could win it, doesnt your lordship insult TDF when he says he thinks he could challenge one day?

 

[El Pistolero]

He shouldnt ride races he cant win? WTF? who created that rule?

I would say hes paying the race respect by riding it.

As for insulting it by saying he could win it, doesnt your lordship insult TDF when he says he thinks he could challenge one day?

Phil? He said he's never going to try for GC at the Tour because he would only get somewhere like in 9th and for him even a fourth place is worth nothing in the Tour. He said this in an interview while sitting next to JVDB

It's Merckx who said he could win the Tour some day, not Phil.

And yes he shouldn't ride the race. He should let someone more capable take his spot. It's not a rule, it's called decency on his part and common sense. He tried to ride these races in 2010 and 2011, that's fine. But he has shown no results thus I don't see why he should keep trying unless he really works for his team in a race like that. Something I've yet to see him do.

 

[rhubroma]

you are obviously the world's greatest cycling fan. you can tell by how much you hated yesterday's race. because the best fans are the ones who hate the sport the most.

pity the fools who actually enjoy bike racing. and show them the error of their ways.

silly.

an alternate and possibly more constructive approach for you might have been to not watch the race. the course has been published for a year now. you knew how it was going to be.

but then you wouldn't get to demonstrate what a superior enthusiast you were by bringing the rest of us down.

I simply find that the Worlds merits a less banal course, even if you can't fathom this, evidently because you are more of a fan than I.

 

[rhubroma]

That's unfair. Cavendish finished 5 of the 10 GTs he's taken part in so far, which is not at all unreasonable for a young cyclist who's not a climber (to say the least) and actually shows a lot of dedication to the races. Other sprinters never bothered riding over the Alps.

I can only respond to the Englishman's comments on pulling out of the Giro.

And I did stated that I didn't approve of Cipollini becoming World Champion. Perhaps we don't have the same concept of just what that exactly means?

 

[Waterloo Sunrise]

To return to the title of this thread, if not it's original intention, I suspect the bands on his jersey will give Cav a bit more of a push to win all year long again, and life his win rate up from the low teens to the mid 20s next year.

 

[El Pistolero]

To return to the title of this thread, if not it's original intention, I suspect the bands on his jersey will give Cav a bit more of a push to win all year long again, and life his win rate up from the low teens to the mid 20s next year.

We'll see, if he starts and wins Paris-Tours this year then we know he'll try harder next year to win more races.

 

[ImmaculateKadence]

I wouldn't say he made it look easy. Goss gave him a good run for his money so it wasn't a cakewalk but Cavendish did show me a lot with his coming from so far back to take the win. He's worthy because he won, easy parcours or not. Still I was rooting for Freire to take it but it just wasn't meant to be. Had the uphill to the line been a bit steeper and longer, Oscarito would be celebrating his fourth wc (In my own dream world of course! ).

I thought Gossy was real impressive. Always considered him a good sprinter (especially in hectic finishes), but I though he lacked speed against the world's best. I was wrong; he has the speed.

Cavendish just killed it though.