The Official Martial Saugy Thread

[DirtyWorks]

Martial Saugy is an integral part of the IOC anti-doping scheme whose name pops up over and over and over again.

This time, Race Radio is claiming it was Saugy destroying Russian blood samples.
https://twitter.com/TheRaceRadio/status/665276556244185088

This guy has been deeply involved with the IOC sports federations going back to before WADA. His name pops up over and over again in most every cycling doping scandal and now the latest IAAF scandal. Again, the central management of the anti-doping system is compromised and has been since the start.

He's a founding member of the new ISUUL consulting group that the UCI used to whipsaw Astana.
viewtopic.php?p=1791477#p1791477

 

[DirtyWorks]

Nice tweet from WADA on Martial Saugy.
Director of Lausanne lab Martial Saugy tells #WADASymposium whom to test, when to test,and what and how to test.

https://twitter.com/wada_ama/status/581024852758241280

Head of Swiss lab (LAD): https://www.wada-ama.org/en/what-we-do/science-medical/laboratories/accredited-laboratories

 

[Benotti69]

Saugy must be very financially well off........

 

[DirtyWorks]

Saugy is going to be tough on dopers in Rio!

http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/doping-and-the-world-cup_-every-footballer-in-brazil-will-be-tested-/38730424

 

[Benotti69]

I wonder is there anything to Cookson deciding to only use the Lausanne lab and not Cologne lab. Wonder did Lausanne manage lose many cycling samples. Boy those lab technicians must get bored easily pouring all the peepee and blood samples down the toilet.

 

[Benotti69]

Re:

Saugy is going to be tough on dopers in Rio!

http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/doping-and-the-world-cup_-every-footballer-in-brazil-will-be-tested-/38730424

Tough on those dopers who dont cough up and get with the real program!!!!

 

[DirtyWorks]

The Armstrong meeting, as requested by the UCI, explaining EPO testing in detail.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/lausanne-laboratory-gave-armstrong-key-to-beating-epo-test-says-tygart/

 

[DirtyWorks]

Another denial. This time protecting the IAAF.
18:01 GMT

Director of Swiss anti-doping laboratory LAD Martial Saugy said the report by the independent commission of the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) was misleading. He rejected accusations that the lab destroyed biological samples of Russian athletes insisting it followed all the procedures required.

https://www.rt.com/news/321344-wada-commission-russia-doping/

 

[DirtyWorks]

Saugy had Armstrong positives, but, probably lost in countless other positives at least from the IAAF and Cycling combined. And it's important to note he has no authority to sanction anyone. Not that he ever would.

http://velonews.competitor.com/2012/10/news/analysis-what-usadas-case-file-means-to-those-involved_256676

 

[DirtyWorks]

An awesome FIFA find here. FIFA athlete tests positive in another WADA certified lab.

FIFA requests Saugy review the documentation package and Saugy finds the documentation, collected under WADA standards, was somehow faulty. This opens the door to Saugy retesting samples in his lab and miraculously finds nothing.

http://wadc-commentary.com/deco/

Somehow, the lab in Rio has had their WADA certification revoked just in time. I don't know how/where that fits if it does at all. Maybe it is as poorly run as Russia's lab.

 

[DirtyWorks]

Follow up on the Rio lab angle. All samples from Rio FIFA world cup were flown from Rio to Saugy's lab.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/olympics-rio-faces-39-big-challenge-39-build-133836046--sow.html

Again, the only thing I'm saying is Saugy is IOC sports federation go-to guy for never testing positive.

Maybe someone at WADA isn't keeping the site updated, but, Rio lab still certified?
https://www.wada-ama.org/en/what-we-do/science-medical/laboratories/accredited-laboratories#region-americas

 

[Benotti69]

Good work DW.

 

[Cake]

Thank you for setting up a separate thread for this DW. This is potentially the real story from the WADA report, rather than Russia (was anyone honestly shocked about Russia? Well Seb was I guess!)

 

[thehog]

Amazing as we're told sport and specifically cycling has cleaned up, the same plays remain underneath. Saugy and the recently retired Zorzorli.

 

[DirtyWorks]

One more with more detailed accounts surrounding the Russian "bad guys."

http://www.sportsintegrityinitiative.com/the-destruction-of-samples-and-martial-saugy/

Good thing other countries are cleans.

 

[More Strides than Rides]

Great thread. Great work.

I saw this thread, and my brain connected a few dots I had seen earlier.

Saugy was behind Lagat's negative B-Sample in 2003: http://www.letsrun.com/2003/lagatfull.doc

(He was the IAAF representative at the B-test in Cologne.)

EDIT:

This thread has made me angrier than any thread I can remember. So much in the doping world can be attributed to failures of systems, culture, and collections of many individuals making small bad decisions.

This guy has had his dirty hand in so many pots. Benottii put it perfectly, he must be soo rich. bribery is the only thing that could motivate a rational person to such a huge breadth and depth of corruption. Either that or a total psychopath (thank god he chose the microscope over the gun...)

 

[More Strides than Rides]

I may be wrong, but isn't Lausanne where Cookson directed samples away from Colonge? Or am I mixing things up.

EDIT: Just saw Benotti's post asking the same thing

 

[GuyIncognito]

Saugy is such a weird guy. When someone from a lab turns out to have done something shady it's almost always Saugy. When someone speaks out against Sky or BMC, or talks about how there's a lot more doping than most are aware, it's almost always Saugy.

I don't get which side he's on. Both, it seems

 

[Benotti69]

Re:

Saugy is such a weird guy. When someone from a lab turns out to have done something shady it's almost always Saugy. When someone speaks out against Sky or BMC, or talks about how there's a lot more doping than most are aware, it's almost always Saugy.

I don't get which side he's on. Both, it seems

Martial Saugy is obviously on the side of Martial Saugy.

 

[Cake]

FYI, the info from this thread about Saugy has been posted on letsrun.com forum too. Hopefully, as wide dispersion of the facts as possible, will result in some much needed scrutiny: this is the real story from the WADA commission report, not Russia.

 

[DirtyWorks]

Re:

I may be wrong, but isn't Lausanne where Cookson directed samples away from Colonge? Or am I mixing things up.

EDIT: Just saw Benotti's post asking the same thing

"Problems" are resovled at LAD. As for which side he's on. He's on the federation side.

It's important to note he's just one actor in a system that permits doping. He'd have some great stories, that's for sure.

 

[DirtyWorks]

I completely missed this one.

Martial Saugy explained away Ms. Racliffe's values for the IAAF.

Another senior independent expert who WADA recommended and who is head of the WADA accredited laboratory in Lausanne was asked at my request to review the data following the Sunday Times articles (without being told my identity). He concluded that:

http://www.paularadcliffe.com/statement-september-2015/

Thanks to the current letsrun thread on Ms. Radcliffe.

 

[thehog]

Re:

I completely missed this one.

Martial Saugy explained away Ms. Racliffe's values for the IAAF.

Another senior independent expert who WADA recommended and who is head of the WADA accredited laboratory in Lausanne was asked at my request to review the data following the Sunday Times articles (without being told my identity). He concluded that:

http://www.paularadcliffe.com/statement-september-2015/

Thanks to the current letsrun thread on Ms. Radcliffe.

No F way! Good find!

- “independent” has become a dirty word.

 

[mrhender]

Re: Re:

I completely missed this one.

Martial Saugy explained away Ms. Racliffe's values for the IAAF.

Another senior independent expert who WADA recommended and who is head of the WADA accredited laboratory in Lausanne was asked at my request to review the data following the Sunday Times articles (without being told my identity). He concluded that:

http://www.paularadcliffe.com/statement-september-2015/

Thanks to the current letsrun thread on Ms. Radcliffe.

No F way! Good find!

- “independent” has become a dirty word.

It certainly is a word up to interpretation.

In strict terms, I would say basically no one, is completely independent.

The frequent use of the word in this "business" seems to offer the interpretation that as long as you aren't directly hired by the subject of analysis you are an independent source. And that is not even the standard because CIRC and IC was payed for by Organisations/people with direct influence on the invesitagated issues.

I don't even know if I can give an example of independent scrutiny, that is not ignored, villified or attacked by the top guns protecting them and their own(ings)..

It's much like the definition of doping... Up to interpretation..

 

[beatthatrat]

Nothing to do with Saugy per se but just noticed that Gabriel Dollé, the under-investigation former director of IAAF medical and anti-doping department has a history with cycling too, see Fignon's book (English translation) p 217, 218 where he carried out tests on Fignon at the Bercy six day in 1989 as the "federation doctor".
I'm presuming the federation mentioned is the French Cycling Federation. Apologies if this is already known, I hadn't seen it mentioned anywhere before.