The Official Poll: Should Contador Have Waited For Schleck's Mechanical??

[sethelliottmeyer]

It's time to vote, everyone! I tried to assemble the options from the most popular opinions from the discussion thread on the matter (also see the thread for various video links of the incident): http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?t=8900

 

[hrotha]

I see many people are voting for option 4. Even if that's the case, there's no way Contador would know it was Andy's fault at the time.

 

[Ninety5rpm]

None of the above, there is no right answer, because the choice is entirely Contador's.

But the consequences will be entirely his too...

 

[donboling]

Contador's comments in the article are lame. He knew full well that he was attacking and why. He has lost my respect today. Go Andy! Kick his ***!

 

[sethelliottmeyer]

Just as a reminder, I'd take comments to the aforementioned thread to get the most feedback / participate in the greater discussion.

 

[McClimber]

I see the big factor is that other Contenders road on too. Can't let those guys go. Mechanicals are part of racing too.

 

[Tyler'sTwin]

He shouldn't have attacked, nor pulled. If SS or DS do, no one can blame him for following them. But Bertie was the one who attacked which was a cowardly move imo.

 

[eireman]

Alberto you have tarnishes the yellow, shame on you. I am sure you heard the news on the Radio and from the others riders. Going on when it isnt the yellow is okay but not today son. Wrong choice..........

 

[sethelliottmeyer]

I'll mention this one last time and then just quit trying: If you want to contribute to the most fruitful discussion on the matter, go to http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?t=8900. Not like you absolutely can't post here, but you'll enter the greater dialogue over there.

 

[US Patent Exploding Cyclist]

Had the case been he followed Menchov and Sanchez, and did not take any pulls at the front, I would be ok with what took place. But, sadly that was not the case. I would say he lacked the class I thought he had today.

 

[santacruz]

I wouldn't be unhappy if Jens Voigt kamikaze crashes into AC for revenge, perhaps on a climb so it doesn't cause too much damage, but allows AC to suffer a slight mechanical incident and AS can attack... Of course it would simply look like an accident.. but Jens and I would know the truth!

 

[dgodave]

None of the above, there is no right answer, because the choice is entirely Contador's....

His free choice does not negate our opinion on correct ethics. Not in any way.
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[peacefultribe]

It was the worst possible time for AS to drop a chain. The attacks were starting, and AS took too much time to get back on his bike. Maybe if he had a teammate there, it wouldn't have taken Andy so long, who knows. Where they were in the race, and on the climb, it was just plain bad luck. If it was earlier in the stage, it would have been different, and easier to wait for him.

Put yourself in the rider's position. It's hot, hard, and you're going full out. To wait as long as needed at that particular point in the race would have been too hectic and hard to control.

Who really knows. I will say that the Schlecks seem to have a fair amount of bad luck and bad timing. Personally, I was getting tired of the way that AS was racing. There was only one stage where he had AC in trouble, so all of this talk of AC being weaker doesn't make sense. From the way that AC was looking, It's possible that he would have taken some time out of Schleck anyway. Look at who he would have had with him on the descent.

 

[Ninety5rpm]

His free choice does not negate our opinion on correct ethics. Not in any way.
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The rightness of killing or hitting another is a question of ethics (can be justified by self-defense). Abortion is a question of ethics. Stealing is unethical.

Whether one should wait in a bike race is not an ethical question. There is no ethical basis for or against either possible answer.

 

[dgodave]

The rightness of killing or hitting another is a question of ethics (can be justified by self-defense). Abortion is a question of ethics. Stealing is unethical.

Whether one should wait in a bike race is not an ethical question. There is no ethical basis for or against either possible answer.

Of course its an ethical question.
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Its about what is fair and correct human behavior. Petty and small compared to stealing, perhaps. But still an ethical issue.
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Its normal and perfectly valid for us to form opinions about it. Contador's freedom of action does not negate our right to form and hold opinions.
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[Barrus]

Is it just me or is the poll averaging out above a 100%?

 

[Special K]

Contrador is a Major D@I#C%K*, in fact he shall now be refered to as "the D@I#C%K* of spain.

 

[Boulder1]

Schleck would have done the same. He's like a little kid crying to mom. Contador was riding hard and saw a break not knowing that Schleck's chain fell off. Besides, Menchove was not about to stop for Schleck: he's just over a minute from Contador and Schleck.

All the greats who chimed in on this said that that's the way the game is played when your attacking the leader. I think this will make the tour even more fun to watch: crying baby boy Schleck vs big bad Alberto.

 

[saganftw]

Is it just me or is the poll averaging out above a 100%?

if my math is correct its like 109% together ...lmao

 

[sethelliottmeyer]

Is it just me or is the poll averaging out above a 100%?

Yes, I apologize for this. It's partly my fault, as it appears I had the setting on where one person can vote for multiple options. Adding up the number of votes (105) and comparing it to the number of voters thus far (96) shows that apparently 9 multiple options were chosen. Sorry about the confusion.

Despite that though, I'm not sure why the poll coding on this forum make the percentages add up to more than 100....

 

[Barrus]

Yes, I apologize for this. It's my fault, as it appears I had the setting on where one person can vote for multiple options. Adding up the number of votes (105) and comparing it to the number of voters thus far (96) shows that apparently 9 multiple options were chosen. The percentage, however, looks to be calculated to the number of voters.

Sorry about the confusion.

No problem, but I just thought my math was off (not the sharpest knife in the drawer when it comes to numbers)
Also just thought it was funny

 

[Weapons of @ss Destruction]

Despite that though, I'm not sure why the poll coding on this forum make the percentages add up to more than 100....

Because the %s are expressed based on the number of unique responders, rather than the gross number of selected responses (in a multi-option poll)?

 

[sethelliottmeyer]

Because the %s are expressed based on the number of unique responders, rather than the gross number of selected responses (in a multi-option poll)?

Yeah, you've got be right on that. I actually said that in the post that Barrus quoted above, then edited my post because I wasn't sure for a moment, and now you've convinced me again.

This whole forum eruption today with all the did he/didn't he, should he/shouldn't he is really clouding my judgment now. I think I'm going to go on a ride to clear my head.

 

[Ninety5rpm]

Of course its an ethical question.
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Its about what is fair and correct human behavior. Petty and small compared to stealing, perhaps. But still an ethical issue.
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Its normal and perfectly valid for us to form opinions about it. Contador's freedom of action does not negate our right to form and hold opinions.
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You can hold any opinion you want, particularly if you make decisions on such things based on how the wind is blowing, by rolling a dice, or by any such arbitrary mechanism.

It's still not an ethical question, because, again, there is no basis by which to determine an ethical answer.

 

[JayZee]

Just watched a replay. Laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaammmmmmmmmee!!!! Contador is so full of crap about not knowing what had happened. Boooooooooooooo!!!!!