Teams & Riders The official Wilco Kelderman is the new Merckx-thread

[pablohidalgo7]

Poor Wilco, this time the crash was not his fault. He had a painful face at the finish.
If he looses time today, he should go for a stage win instead of going for a top 20 in GC.

 

[lenric]

I fancy Wilco. I doubt he is GT winning material, but he's talented. Unfortunately, he doesn't have the mentality of a champion. Much like Pinot, for example. They'd better improve mentally, because they're talented enough to have a good career.

 

[SoigneurNL]

Wilco just cant seem to win or consolidate a lead. Sounds like cracking under pressure to me.

 

[MatParker117]

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I fancy Wilco. I doubt he is GT winning material, but he's talented. Unfortunately, he doesn't have the mentality of a champion. Much like Pinot, for example. They'd better improve mentally, because they're talented enough to have a good career.

Well if he does head to Sky, Steve Peters should be able to help with that and with Rod Ellingworth and Tim Kerrison also available it could be a great move for him.

 

[roundabout]

Did he crash again today?

 

[Red Rick]

Yes. Why did he even bother riding on after falling out of GC action and riding in gruppetto's dammit. He can't win a stage, especially not with a descent, so why is he ruining himself?

 

[Flamin]

Did he crash again today?

Yes. Only God knows how he did it again. Surely he was not taking risks for a 5th spot or whatever but yet...

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

He was actually not far from the lead 3 when the descent started, only like a corner or 2 behind. But then again, why would you notice that?

So I can understand why he took risks

 

[Bardamu]

Disappointing Tour for him, but luckily for him the weight of Dutch cycling is not on his shoulders. He can grow steadily and learn from this disappointment.

 

[Flamin]

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He was actually not far from the lead 3 when the descent started, only like a corner or 2 behind. But then again, why would you notice that?

So I can understand why he took risks

2 corners behind?? Based on what exactly? They never showed him on the descent. Only a time check where it said a group containing Kreuziger was 50" behind.

 

[roundabout]

I too thought that he was the next rider on the road after the 3 at one point.

 

[Popchu]

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He was actually not far from the lead 3 when the descent started, only like a corner or 2 behind. But then again, why would you notice that?

So I can understand why he took risks

2 corners behind?? Based on what exactly? They never showed him on the descent. Only a time check where it said a group containing Kreuziger was 50" behind.

He was 20 seconds behind. I followed him on the Tour Tracker and he really came closer and closer. Above all, you saw it on the television he was actually two corners behind.

So yes, Dekker Tifosi and right and it is 100% normal he took risks.

 

[Alexandre B.]

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He was actually not far from the lead 3 when the descent started, only like a corner or 2 behind. But then again, why would you notice that?

So I can understand why he took risks

2 corners behind?? Based on what exactly? They never showed him on the descent. Only a time check where it said a group containing Kreuziger was 50" behind.

Dekker_Tifosi is right. In the short hill after the KOM, he was two corners behind. There was a shot on TV from the helico.

 

[Kwibus]

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He was actually not far from the lead 3 when the descent started, only like a corner or 2 behind. But then again, why would you notice that?

So I can understand why he took risks

2 corners behind?? Based on what exactly? They never showed him on the descent. Only a time check where it said a group containing Kreuziger was 50" behind.

At one point when they just hit the descent and they showed a helicopter view you could see Kelderman coming toward the hairpin that the leading trio just passed.
I never expected him to close the gap though, if he really tried I expected him to crash and that's what he did. Kelderman is worse than Gesink imo. Atleast Gesink had some mental resilience, while Kelderman is always a mental wrech when he crashes saying stuff like " why does it always happen to me"

Shame really.

 

[Flamin]

Fair enough, I didn't see it. I'll watch again.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

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He was actually not far from the lead 3 when the descent started, only like a corner or 2 behind. But then again, why would you notice that?

So I can understand why he took risks

2 corners behind?? Based on what exactly? They never showed him on the descent. Only a time check where it said a group containing Kreuziger was 50" behind.

They actually showed a shot just after the descent started and you could cleary see him in 4th position alone. It was only a 2 sec shot but very clear.

You missed it completely, that is sure

 

[Flamin]

Saw it now. He was on an uphill section there, so still easily 20-25" behind. But I stand corrected, it's not weird that he took risks, although he can't ride a bike for ***, so not really smart.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

I think he's blind as a bat.Just cannot see depth or see corners in time.

 

[MatParker117]

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Saw it now. He was on an uphill section there, so still easily 20-25" behind. But I stand corrected, it's not weird that he took risks, although he can't ride a bike for ****, so not really smart.

That's what Ellingworth Kerrison and Peters are for should he decide to take the black.

 

[GP Blanco]

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I think he's blind as a bat.Just cannot see depth or see corners in time.

This might be true. At least, he wears glasses. It is quite possible, that like me, he struggles with depth. Which is not the best thing to have when you are going down.

 

[roundabout]

he got the same time on the stage as Alaphilippe so it means that he nearly made it down safely

 

[Red Rick]

The Dutch that are hyped the youngest, typically end up as the most hopeless causes, i.e. Gesink, Kelderman

 

[pablohidalgo7]

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he got the same time on the stage as Alaphilippe so it means that he nearly made it down safely

He crashed into the fences in the last Km.

At least today was riding a good diesel tempo in Joux Plane, not a bad a performance at all.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

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The Dutch that are hyped the youngest, typically end up as the most hopeless causes, i.e. Gesink, Kelderman

and the ones that are overlooked a little like Dumoulin and Poels (by the big press) are the best in the end

 

[cunavalos]

He was still about 15 seconds behind Nibali and about 4-5 behind Alaphilippe when he lost control and hit the barriers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGKm9uzLiqY