Presumably he will lead the Dutch in Tour de l'Avenir this year? I hope they release details of the stages soon. Should be a good race against Quintana.
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Another Dutch talent ruined by the Dekker_Tifosi curse. Too bad, he definitely seemed to have some potential.
BTW, you guys think he looks young? Wait until you hear him speak.
BTW, you guys think he looks young? Wait until you hear him speak.
theyoungest said:
That's the same video where the Norwegian - who's second on the GC after Wilco - and his mates say that he looks like a girl.
Regarding Wilco, I think I've made my views on him pretty clear. He's a huge talent, I'm just waiting to see how he fares in the Tour l'Avenir. I really do hope they give him the proper space and time to realize his potential.
Yep. It's also the video where Flavio has the guy's name all wrong, he's called Daniel Holm Foder, not Foder Daniel HolmSpine Concept said:That's the same video where the Norwegian - who's second on the GC after Wilco - and his mates say that he looks like a girl.
Heh, the Columbian who won Avenir last year got the Vuelta e Catalunya KOM. Did not know that. Where's his own thread?
(if that wasn't a bat-signal for a certain poster...)
(if that wasn't a bat-signal for a certain poster...)
Tuarts said:Heh, the Columbian who won Avenir last year got the Vuelta e Catalunya KOM. Did not know that. Where's his own thread?
(if that wasn't a bat-signal for a certain poster...)
Why don't you open it? Problem solved.
He also caused carnage on this stage in Castilla y Leon, only to get dropped himself on the final climb (which wasn't as steep). Personally I don't think Kelderman will be able to beat him in the Tour de l'Avenir... Quintana is in a league of his own, among the U23s.Tuarts said:Heh, the Columbian who won Avenir last year got the Vuelta e Catalunya KOM. Did not know that. Where's his own thread?
(if that wasn't a bat-signal for a certain poster...)
Ye i know that is the guy who will win the giro tour and vuelta in 2016 - 2026but I mean the guy behind him.
Since I work as an agent/manager for one of W. Kelderman’s biggest youth rivals (Toms Skujins), I have had the chance to follow him on quit a few occasions by now and I must admit he has impressed me a lot. It’s evident he possesses a little extra, especially when the roads tilt skywards!
Although potential wise, I think he and Toms are pretty similar.
The only chin-k in his amour I have seen so far is that he doesn’t seem overly confident changing pace while riding uphill; he looks much more comfortable just riding tempo.
He seems to have great race-intelligence as well though. Overall a very, very big talent!
Dutch cycling looks incredible bright.
Although potential wise, I think he and Toms are pretty similar.
The only chin-k in his amour I have seen so far is that he doesn’t seem overly confident changing pace while riding uphill; he looks much more comfortable just riding tempo.
He seems to have great race-intelligence as well though. Overall a very, very big talent!
Dutch cycling looks incredible bright.
Dekker_Tifosi said:
10th in the tour Avenir is impressive. He will have a good chance this year then. Should be up against a bunch of Colombians. However the dutch mafia better dont have too high hopes of him winning a tour in the future. When was the last time a Dutch rider won the tour?? Way back in the 70s I think.
Well, then we can change the thread title to "Wilco Kelderman is the new Robert Gesink"Jakob747 said:
Toms Skujins certainly seems to be a big allround talent... he pops up in the results of mountain stages, and in the Tour of Flanders U23, if I remember correctly. What's his main strength? (climbing, I assume)
Joop Zoetemelk, in 1980. Which is more recent than the last Belgian winner, Lucien van Impe in 1976. We're not a big cycling nation, so it's a consolation that one of the biggest cycling nations does worse than usthe asian said:
the asian said:
Can't see how the lack of Dutch winners in the past affects the chances of current riders. Strange reasoning.
theyoungest said:Joop Zoetemelk, in 1980. Which is more recent than the last Belgian winner, Lucien van Impe in 1976. We're not a big cycling nation, so it's a consolation that one of the biggest cycling nations does worse than us
Youngest you evil conductor of the CN forum-choir, you know I'm a compulsive biter.
Check out the results of the classics and even GT stage wins in the last decade or so. Weening in Giro must have been refreshing for you guys, while most of us already forgot about Bart de Clercq's stage win.
the asian said:
lol. no reason not to hope success. silly logic, really silly/ edit i see boomcie beat me to the punch.
But I mean he has to show his talent in the pro ranks before he is touted as such. At the moment he is one of the biggest talents in the espoirs, but as we have seen in the past it doesn't always mean huge success. Time will tell.
I do think Holland have one of the best talent pools currently tho.
A lot of great youngsters coming through.
And currently our best GC men are all pretty young.. Gesink, Kruijswijk, Mollema.
It was a shame poels was injured at le tour, I think he could have done ok on a stage or two also.
Yes, that's what makes Belgium a much bigger cycling nation than the Dutch, who currently watch from the sidelines while the big boys play. And that's why it's surprising that your last winner of the Tour (i.e. the biggest cycling race on earth) was 35 years ago.boomcie said:
It's not surprising that there aren't any threads about Belgian cycling talents, because you have actual pros that deliver results. We don't, and thus we desperately cling to any kid that has shown some measure of talent.
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