Your known to be Irish?
Sorry, i didn't realize you were a public figure or something. Tell us what you are famous for. Can I have your autograph?
looking forward to the macho put down coming here
Here all along I just thought you were a poster who claimed to be Irish, rather than that everyone came into the forum knowing martinvickers is Irish.
But its redundant anyway because I really don't care about dirt of birth.
Anyway to go to the discussion I never offered any of my arguments as a fact. I was responding to a post where you said you "couldn't think of any" other reasons for why pre Socchi olympics had more positive doping tests than pre London olympics
I offered two possible explanations, to "help" you since you couldn't think of any. They were mutually exclusive at that. You are right, they probably were flawed, the second one anyway, the first one, it is certainly true that top drug cheats have consistently gotten away with drugs tests thereby making any "no positives = clean" logic as you offered, totally flawed.
I can offer a better one now and it goes like this - a sample of 2 is way too small. I find it curious that you are so eagerly jumping onto a conclusion the way you did on the fact that 1 olympics had less pre positives than another.
Like with the 2012 Tour where you jumped onto a conclusion without checking how other editions fit into it, I think you are making the mistake of focusing on a very very narrow period of time and trying to extrapolate conclusions from that.
You are talking about 1 games vs another, were so many outside variables can totally skew everything. If you can find some sort of pattern that countries with less pre olympic dope tests have stronger anti doping programmes, I guess you could make conclusions from this, but on its own it means nothing.
And as I said, your conclusion that having more money in non olympic sports brings about cleanliness in olympics is so easily refutable I can't believe someone who has been in the clinic for more than a week would make it. No not every single athlete neccesarily that represented the US was doping, but in the decades since those involved have aknowledged there was mass doping at US olympic teams. Which, considering the US is a country where more money exists in non olympic sports, (particularly before NBA was in the olympics) throws your theory out of the window.
Sorry, i didn't realize you were a public figure or something. Tell us what you are famous for. Can I have your autograph?
looking forward to the macho put down coming here
Here all along I just thought you were a poster who claimed to be Irish, rather than that everyone came into the forum knowing martinvickers is Irish.
But its redundant anyway because I really don't care about dirt of birth.
Anyway to go to the discussion I never offered any of my arguments as a fact. I was responding to a post where you said you "couldn't think of any" other reasons for why pre Socchi olympics had more positive doping tests than pre London olympics
I offered two possible explanations, to "help" you since you couldn't think of any. They were mutually exclusive at that. You are right, they probably were flawed, the second one anyway, the first one, it is certainly true that top drug cheats have consistently gotten away with drugs tests thereby making any "no positives = clean" logic as you offered, totally flawed.
I can offer a better one now and it goes like this - a sample of 2 is way too small. I find it curious that you are so eagerly jumping onto a conclusion the way you did on the fact that 1 olympics had less pre positives than another.
Like with the 2012 Tour where you jumped onto a conclusion without checking how other editions fit into it, I think you are making the mistake of focusing on a very very narrow period of time and trying to extrapolate conclusions from that.
You are talking about 1 games vs another, were so many outside variables can totally skew everything. If you can find some sort of pattern that countries with less pre olympic dope tests have stronger anti doping programmes, I guess you could make conclusions from this, but on its own it means nothing.
And as I said, your conclusion that having more money in non olympic sports brings about cleanliness in olympics is so easily refutable I can't believe someone who has been in the clinic for more than a week would make it. No not every single athlete neccesarily that represented the US was doping, but in the decades since those involved have aknowledged there was mass doping at US olympic teams. Which, considering the US is a country where more money exists in non olympic sports, (particularly before NBA was in the olympics) throws your theory out of the window.