The Patrick Lefevere Depreciation Thread

[roundabout]

Pat's an easy target only because he makes himself one.

Somehow the rest of the old codgers in cycling seem to manage just fine with their public statements even in 2024.

 

[Basecase]

The Sam Bennett comments.

Really? Link to evidence please?

 

[Basecase]

Pathetic, the things he has said against male cyclists compared to woman. Only a far left looney would support this

Ah so your comment makes you far right. Congratulations on qualifying. Your folks must be proud. Tell us the lovely far right characteristics you hold? I'm waiting with baited breath. This is so exciting

 

[Basecase]

Haha, fair point.

But honestly, sanctioning someone for an opinion, no matter how stupid, would have never been something I expected...

Seems if it gets to the level of defamation there's a legal system for that, but I may be projecting my American view of the law onto this.

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[Basecase]

It's a divisionary tactic to demostrate they're putting up the good fight in these times. Pat's an easy target, not belonging to contemporaneity.

The word contemporaneity does not belong to contemporaneity

 

[Basecase]

It's 2024 and people still don't know what free speech laws actually mean.

Anyway, what's lamer to me is that the articles don't refer to the exact quote.

Addiotionally, I'm more interested in what Bashenko actually did.

Erm uci have their own governance, so not specific to one country's laws......

 

[saunaking]

It's a divisionary tactic to demostrate they're putting up the good fight in these times. Pat's an easy target, not belonging to contemporaneity.

100%

 

[Pantani_lives]

I'm siding with Patrick. You can call it a weird comparison or an unlucky choice of words, but it isn't hate speech. Doesn't the UCI have anything more serious to occupy itself with, like measuring socks or something?

 

[DNP-Old]

Really? Link to evidence please?

Patrick Lefevere moet boete van ruim 20.000 euro betalen na “kleinerende uitspraken over vrouwen”

De ethische commissie van de UCI heeft Patrick Lefevere -ploegbaas van Soudal Quick-Step - een boete van 20.000 Zwitserse frank (omgerekend 20.800 euro) opgelegd voor “denigrerende opmerkingen over vrouwen.”

m.nieuwsblad.be

 

[red_flanders]

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Maybe you could expand on that comment.

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

Lol good

 

[hussysh]

I'm siding with Patrick. You can call it a weird comparison or an unlucky choice of words, but it isn't hate speech. Doesn't the UCI have anything more serious to occupy itself with, like measuring socks or something?

Patrick Lefevere’s comments might be controversial, but they don’t necessarily mean hate speech.

 

[shadowrider]

Of the stupid rulings and penalties of the UCI, this is the worst.

While UCI does absolutely nothing about safety in the race for the riders, does nothing about the abuses of some of the riders themselves (pulling, pushing, hindering before and during the sprints, riding on the sidewalk/footpath and riding behind and between spectators), the abuses with motorcycles that distort the course, the deliberate race-cheating by a competition director (Amstel Gold Race 23), the intimidation and the attacks against cyclocrossriders not wanting to participate to all "worldtourraces" etc etc etc etc.

The UCI is now only about the total power of a monopolist. With all the abuses that entails. What Lefevere would have said about women (?) or women's cycling is his opinion and rightly so. He just says it unfiltered. I hope Lefevere will go to (civil) court to have the UCI convicted of slander and defamation.

 

[Extinction]

Pat's an easy target only because he makes himself one.

Somehow the rest of the old codgers in cycling seem to manage just fine with their public statements even in 2024.

Well, that's because, Pat has the proverbial and self-professed cojones. The others are just lilly-livered ***.

 

[Extinction]

I'm siding with Patrick. You can call it a weird comparison or an unlucky choice of words, but it isn't hate speech. Doesn't the UCI have anything more serious to occupy itself with, like measuring socks or something?

The whole charade is ridiculous and appalling.

 

[Wyndbrook]

I wonder if he just pays and insists it go to charity instead of topping up UCI coffers.

 

[roundabout]

Well, that's because, Pat has the proverbial and self-professed cojones. The others are just lilly-livered ***.

Or maybe they have the ability to run their teams without getting into ugly public spats with their riders.

Kind of amusing though that you straight-up insulted people in the best Lefevere style for the heinous crime of making Lefevere look bad in comparison.

 

[tobydawq]

Maybe you could expand on that comment.

It's an excrement (possibly from a dog). It's intended to indicate disagreement in a disrespectful way.

You're welcome.

 

[Panda Claws]

Why do they even bother with this? Feels like some personal crusade by someone at UCI.

 

[red_flanders]

It's an excrement (possibly from a dog). It's intended to indicate disagreement in a disrespectful way.

You're welcome.

But its eyes are smiling, I'm getting mixed signals...

 

[joseph89]

“Finally: I heard with you this week – and not a moment earlier – that the UCI ethics committee is imposing a fine of 20,000 Swiss francs on me because of 'misogynistic statements'. For the record : I am currently considering my position and will refrain from further comment.” - Lefevere

 

[The fridge in the blue trees]

In the meantime Marion Rousse struck again, this time Alaphilippe's fragile mental state made him have a puncture. Divorce the only remaining option?

 

[Rob5091]

Not a happy man after E3 -
https://cyclinguptodate.com/cycling...l-quick-steps-poor-showing-at-e3-saxo-classic

"I weigh my words, but they were seriously inadequate." "Let me be honest: how we pulled away as a team was just painful," Lefevere continues glumly. "I saw us leading around 90 kilometres from the finish, but after that: the big nothing. We don't even participate in the group behind Mathieu van der Poel and Wout van Aert. Lidl-Trek has three men in the top ten. UAE Team Emirates without Tadej Pogacar is down to two men. And we have nothing."

 

[CyclistAbi]

Today one of Slovenian ski jumping commentators ended his decade long "hobby", commentating ski jumping on national TV. In general he was loved and is considered a legend, but obvisuly a small an vocal minority "finally won". Arguing he is a drunk and nitpicking for the sake of nitpicking.

 

[DNP-Old]

Today one of Slovenian ski jumping commentators ended his decade long "hobby", commentating ski jumping on national TV. In general he was loved and is considered a legend, but obvisuly a small an vocal minority "finally won". Arguing he is a drunk and nitpicking for the sake of nitpicking.

Noted, thanks for this invaluable piece of information.