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Interesting Rookie Line up in the Czech Tour. Palzer and Hajek from the WT Team. Jasch, Tuckwell, Boichis, Pringle and Donati from the Devo Team.
Pretty strong Mountain line up for this race. There will be two Mountain top finishes, one Hilly/Rolling Terrain Stage and one for the Sprinters. Donati and/or Boichis for Stage 1. Hajek for Stage 2 and 4 and if he doesn ´t have the legs lets See what Jasch or Tuckwell can do. Stage 3 for Donati. Just Visma and Soudal do have strong line ups there. Maybe one of the PRT Teams (Kern Pharma, Vini Fantini) do have strong riders there but I am not an expert here.

In my Point of view a crucial race for Hajek and Jasch. Hajek can score big here and prove that he is a climber/rider for the hilly terrain. I hope for a top 3 in GC. Jasch can be his last domestique or step in if Hajek is struggling and that could earn him a WT contract as a Mountain domestique at RBH because that role is needed at World Tour Level.

I Hope for a top 3 in GC for Hajek, a top 10 for Jasch or Tuckwell and maybe a Stage win (Donati?)
Hmmm, I haven´t seen all the stages, but what I have seen was a promising team effort without top individual performances. Jasch was very consistent, did his job as domestique and still finished in the top 10. Donati came second in the first stage, best of the rest behind Lamperti. Boichis did a good job on stage 4, Tuckwell was ok. I´m a little bit disappointet of the Hajek performance, lets see which races come next for him.
 
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RBH wants to become a team with many victories. To do that, they definitely need another sprinter. Meeus and van Poppel, who isn't actually intended to be a sprinter, can win, but they don't win very often. You need a fast finisher, especially for smaller races. Let's see if that will be Donati from the Rookies or if they will look elsewhere. In general, I'm really excited to see which rookies will get a place. Some riders deserve a chance. However, according to Denk, there aren't many expiring contracts in the WT-team.

In addition to Thornley, Jasch, Donati, Boichis, and Tuckwell also deserve it, as the team probably has a special fondness for him since he was the first rider to sign with the Rookies.
As for the rest of the riders, I don't think they're ready (yet) for the WT team, or they're still so young that I'd rather see them stay with the rookies until 2026 with a few appearances in the WT team (e.g., Finn).
 
"I'm happy with his arrival; he's special. Remco has already won quite a few races, so I hope we can achieve great things together," said Roglič, but then added "I'm still the GOAT according to Remco vs Roglic thread eh?"
 
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I am super surprised about the Vuelta line-up. Okay, most of the riders were clear. But where is Ben Zwiehoff? No GT this year :(

But with Denz, Van Dijke and Koch three riders for flat terrain. Do you really believe in the overall classification that you need so much help in the flat?

The mountain team with Hindley, Pellizari, Aleotti, Sobrero, Fisher-Back looks okay on paper of course.
 
I am super surprised about the Vuelta line-up. Okay, most of the riders were clear. But where is Ben Zwiehoff? No GT this year :(

But with Denz, Van Dijke and Koch three riders for flat terrain. Do you really believe in the overall classification that you need so much help in the flat?

The mountain team with Hindley, Pellizari, Aleotti, Sobrero, Fisher-Back looks okay on paper of course.
Yeah, Zwiehoff is good in the heat, I would have brought him. Then again, who do you leave out? Sobrero hasn't raced a gt this year until now because of a bad training crash during spring and both him and Aleotti were in great shape for the Vuelta prep race. Maybe I'm a bit surprised about Pellizzari riding 2 gts this season, but he didn't have many race days before the Giro, so him overracing shouldn't be a problem. Maybe Zwiehoff for Denz, but that's about it.
 
Zwiehoff deserves it for his selfless job as a domestique in almost every race, but Adrià deserved even more for his recent win and his results over this 2 years. I suppose they tink he can score more results in other races but still strange to pick another rouleaur like Koch.
 
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Yeah they bring a team like they expect to be in red for a week or so. A stage hunter like Adria would have been a nice addition but he can now go for a lot of one day races that suit him very well.

Zwiehoff out is a bit odd, maybe he's leaving the team. Also wasn't there chatter about Wandahl starting?

In the end it is quite a strong team but it lacks a leader that can compete against Jonas, Almeida and Ayuso. Top 5 is possible.
 
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Yeah, Zwiehoff is good in the heat, I would have brought him. Then again, who do you leave out? Sobrero hasn't raced a gt this year until now because of a bad training crash during spring and both him and Aleotti were in great shape for the Vuelta prep race. Maybe I'm a bit surprised about Pellizzari riding 2 gts this season, but he didn't have many race days before the Giro, so him overracing shouldn't be a problem. Maybe Zwiehoff for Denz, but that's about it.
I don't think two GTs are ideal for such a young rider either. UAE is very consistent in this respect and I think that's a good thing.

Denz, Koch and Van Dijke have a similar role for me. I would have preferred to take Zwiehoff. Denz hasn't been in such good form recently either. Otherwise, of course, a top rider.
Zwiehoff deserves it for his selfless job as a domestique in almost every race, but Adrià deserved even more for his recent win and his results over this 2 years. I suppose they tink he can score more results in other races but still strange to pick another rouleaur like Koch.

Yeah they bring a team like they expect to be in red for a week or so. A stage hunter like Adria would have been a nice addition but he can now go for a lot of one day races that suit him very well.

Zwiehoff out is a bit odd, maybe he's leaving the team. Also wasn't there chatter about Wandahl starting?
Wandahl is planned for a GT next year. This year is too early after the injuries

I haven't heard that Zwiehoff is leaving.
But there are rumours that Adria will leave perhaps because of that he is missing.
 
I don't think two GTs are ideal for such a young rider either. UAE is very consistent in this respect and I think that's a good thing.

Denz, Koch and Van Dijke have a similar role for me. I would have preferred to take Zwiehoff. Denz hasn't been in such good form recently either. Otherwise, of course, a top rider.



Wandahl is planned for a GT next year. This year is too early after the injuries

I haven't heard that Zwiehoff is leaving.
But there are rumours that Adria will leave perhaps because of that he is missing.
With the Vuelta it would be 61 race days this season for Pellizzari. Last season he did 71 with only one gt and already 59 race days without a gt 2 years ago.
 
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With the Vuelta it would be 61 race days this season for Pellizzari. Last season he did 71 with only one gt and already 59 race days without a gt 2 years ago.
Yes but a GT is harder then smaller races. That is a race over 3 weeks in a row. Often much harder every day. Also from a mental point of view.
I am not a big fan of UAE but in this way I like the way they go. They are thinking in a long term with their young guys.
 
Does anyone know anything about Tratnik and Lazkano? Any News, Social Media Posts about their Health?

Tratnik just got married and in regards to health the injury he sustained during the Giro was worse then anticipated. Inflammation and fluid in the knee basically preventing pain free training. Tranik said he is grateful to Red Bull Athlete Performance Center for having access to such facility in terms of rehabilitation.
 
Tratnik just got married and in regards to health the injury he sustained during the Giro was worse then anticipated. Inflammation and fluid in the knee basically preventing pain free training. Tranik said he is grateful to Red Bull Athlete Performance Center for having access to such facility in terms of rehabilitation.
That’s a bummer to hear. Hope he can have a full recovery eventually.
 
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The team still has a long way to go to get where they want to be. There are currently many opportunities for breakaways in the Vuelta. However, the groups are not being filled. Things are still looking good in the overall standings, but both captains are struggling. That was to be expected and is okay. But where were all the mountain helpers today? While Campenaerts leads the field, all of RBH's helpers are already gone. Much too early. Sobrero is excused after his crash.
Let's see what changes the new sports management brings.
The Vuelta is currently being ridden so defensively by the favorites, so much would be possible on the stages. If you can't keep up, the riders in the squad should be able to help better.
 
I don't think they are long way from where they want to be. That is in 2026 season it is expected of them to win a couple of one day races, week long stage race or two and a combo of GT and rather secured third place or preferably higher at the Tour is something reasonable to expect.

One problem they indeed seem to have is the level in between some of their top riders and first or second lieutenant, when it comes to support, here the gap seems rather huge compared to on what it should be on paper. This is something they will need to sort out in terms of improving it. Better pay and more opportunities for support riders would likely improve situation. We'll see.
 
Hindley is done being a serious GT contender. The next GT he just isn't on the level to be even close to the podium fight. Also Pelizarri already riding his own race for white.
Today he lost time against Vingegaard, Almeida, Pidcock and Gall. The first two are obviously way above him. He attacked several times in the group but didn´t get clear. Thats ok as the riders were benefiting a lot of the drafting on this climb. The rest of the minimal gaps are TTT and bonus seconds - I don´t see any problem here. He is still on track for a top 5 GC result.
Lets wait until the Angliru stage, with these gradients a lot of time can be lost or gained.
 
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