Teams & Riders The Remco Evenepoel is the next Eddy Merckx thread

[Logic-is-your-friend]

I find that quite difficult to arrange, they do most stuff by car. So by driving to and from you already lost 1-2 days. Then do recon and immediately go back?

I agree that there is time to do recon between December and start TDF, just not sure it should’ve happened in January-February when there was so much physio. Then again I don’t know his calendar, maybe there was time. Just tells you how unprofessional or unserious they are at SOQ.

It doesn't really matter when, but he should have had more time than riders who were actually racing before April. And I don't see why that should have been difficult to arrange. Take a plane, rent a car for stages too far south. We used to ride to Disney land in the morning, spend the day there, come back after dark, all on the same day. Not every stage needs to be reconned, not the entire route of the stages that do, need to be reconned. Not all stages need to be reconned on one day. It's pure laziness and amateurish to go to the TDF with the ambition to at least podium and not knowing the route

 

[hayneplane]

Landa, Roglic, Ayuso (iirc)...
Edit: the Yateseses, Hindley, Arensman, Tiberi...

Derek Gee, Carapaz (maybe), Rubio, Storer.

 

[red_flanders]

Lrcp beats horner

Anything beats Horner...

 

[jmdirt]

I find that quite difficult to arrange, they do most stuff by car. So by driving to and from you already lost 1-2 days. Then do recon and immediately go back?

I agree that there is time to do recon between December and start TDF, just not sure it should’ve happened in January-February when there was so much physio. Then again I don’t know his calendar, maybe there was time. Just tells you how unprofessional or unserious they are at SOQ.

I'm thinking that during recovery is by far the best time to recon via car because he isn't doing anything for weeks (his words). This is a top level team they should take the physio with them, not schedule to go back and forth.

 

[Ripper]

I'm thinking that during recovery is by far the best time to recon via car because he isn't doing anything for weeks (his words). This is a top level team they should take the physio with them, not schedule to go back and forth.

To the bolded - you are correct, but I don't know if they actually do it that way. They play it pretty close so it is hard to say whether they act like a tope level team or a bunch of bozos who follow rehab and prep from the 70's

 

[Ripper]

Anything beats Horner...

Truth!

Although Horner is funny if you are in the mood ...

 

[Ripper]

Yeah... so what has he and the team been doing the past months when he wasn't able to train due to his injury? Wasn't that the ideal moment to do extensive recons and analysis of the TDF route?

Yes it was.

Perhaps it was an extensive self pity party

 

[Berniece]

I'm thinking that during recovery is by far the best time to recon via car because he isn't doing anything for weeks (his words). This is a top level team they should take the physio with them, not schedule to go back and forth.

It’s not the teams physio, he’s an independent and the best in Belgium with a huge clientele. He can’t just leave. But I agree that there must have been time to go already

 

[KoopaCycling]

Lets be real, aside from a few crucial stages recon is overrated. A flat stage, you just need to know the danger zones to avoid crashing.

Uphill is nice to have points of reference, but the legs are the legs. Downhill finals (&TT) are the most crucial imo for recon. But what do i know. nothing really. just my own thoughts on the matter.

 

[Berniece]

Article in Het Nieuwsblad with Evenepoel and his director Lodewyck. Apparently SOQ staff thought it was a bad idea to ride Fleche Wallone, but Evenepoel wanted to... I get that after sitting on the sidelines for so long, and seeing everyone else start the season you want so too, but sometimes you need to do what's best for your results. And maybe listen to the staff, who's the boss in that team really?

 

[KenFiamingo]

Article in Het Nieuwsblad with Evenepoel and his director Lodewyck. Apparently SOQ staff thought it was a bad idea to ride Fleche Wallone, but Evenepoel wanted to... I get that after sitting on the sidelines for so long, and seeing everyone else start the season you want so too, but sometimes you need to do what's best for your results. And maybe listen to the staff, who's the boss in that team really?

Why did they think it would be a bad idea?

 

[houtdffan]

Article in Het Nieuwsblad with Evenepoel and his director Lodewyck. Apparently SOQ staff thought it was a bad idea to ride Fleche Wallone, but Evenepoel wanted to... I get that after sitting on the sidelines for so long, and seeing everyone else start the season you want so too, but sometimes you need to do what's best for your results. And maybe listen to the staff, who's the boss in that team really?

the bad idea was letting him take off his rain jacket so early

 

[Berniece]

Why did they think it would be a bad idea?

That they didn't say, probably too much too soon after each other which has an impact on your stage racing

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Lets be real, aside from a few crucial stages recon is overrated. A flat stage, you just need to know the danger zones to avoid crashing.

Uphill is nice to have points of reference, but the legs are the legs. Downhill finals (&TT) are the most crucial imo for recon. But what do i know. nothing really. just my own thoughts on the matter.

It is exactly the finals, finishes, downhills and POIs that he should have reconned. Nobody is arguing he needs to study all the neutral zones at the start of every stage.

 

[Unchained]

It is exactly the finals, finishes, downhills and POIs that he should have reconned. Nobody is arguing he needs to study all the neutral zones at the start of every stage.

Most recon has a lead legs element.. Sooner you can get out of the plane or vehicle roll around on your bike, get coffee, smell the new air ,feel different humidity, get straight 8 in new hotel room or rental house bed the better.
Remco just rode the rollercoaster again last week!! Was in the mix, got dropped on the climb like a dirty diaper!! Next day, smoked the time trial for stage win and recovering some dignity!! I wouldn't want to be the motorcycle camera guy that stayed next to him for all the time he was blown on the climb.. He looked pissed off.
Sure hope he is bringing his A game

 

[Stablo]

with his twitter reply to that lunatic piece of shyyte Festinaboy-Vayer a few months ago and now this reply, I'm on the Remco bandawagon

What did he reply to Vayer i didnt see anything on his X?

 

[pastronef]

What did he reply to Vayer i didnt see anything on his X?

a 2021 tweet by Vayer and Remco answered

"Le plus important est que je suis heureux dans ma vie et que je m’en bats les couilles de tes commentaires"

 

[Stablo]

a 2021 tweet by Vayer and Remco answered

"The most important thing is that I'm happy with my life and I don't give a damn about your comments."

Thanks! Oh it was that far away, i read that couple of months ago.

 

[pastronef]

Thanks! Oh it was that far away, i read that couple of months ago.

anyone who's Vayer's enemy is my friend ahah

 

[Red Rick]

Few things are so admirable as to getting rattled on twitter.

 

[Berniece]

Few things are so admirable as to getting rattled on twitter.

Different generation I guess

 

[GenericBoonenFan]

Thanks! Oh it was that far away, i read that couple of months ago.

I will miss Lefevre and Vayer going back and fourth on twitter

 

[HashRouge]

2 or 3 times per week, that still means you have at least 2 days in a row in between that you can use to do recons. I doubt the physio works on Sundays. They didn't have to do all 21 stages at once.


No. He speaks his mind, and i often don't agree with his analysis, but it's at least honest. LRCP has evolved into a cringefest with the protagonists thinking (or acting like) they invented the wheel and they are the stars of cycling. Yet they often come up with moronic analysis or poorly informed takes.

I like LRCP. As a newish fan, they've taught me a lot about road cycling.

 

[KoopaCycling]

I like LRCP. As a newish fan, they've taught me a lot about road cycling.

I like them too. There aren't many half decent yt or otherwise channels about cycling. I don't care about the Lance Armstrong. podcast. Too much selling stuff, and half the time their content isn't what i care about. GCN has nice segments but it is often a nothing burger. CyclingDane is okay. Just a bunch of people talking about cycling. But the flow can be a bit off. And you don't get much info about watts, ... . Horner is all about saving energy, riding defensive which can get repetitive. Sometimes you want cycling to be chaotic instead of predictable. But he has some nice background info from someone who was in the middle of it all. Having said that, I prefer the Lantern rouge analysis videos over the actual podcasts. Still if i got the time, it can be nice to tune in. See how other people think about the race i watched. maybe I missed something, maybe they view a rider behavior differently ... stuff like that.

 

[houtdffan]

May not be the best news for Remco.

Seems Landa may have somewhat of a broken neck. No Pantani-level dom (if he repeats last TDF's climbing performances)