Teams & Riders The Remco Evenepoel is the next Eddy Merckx thread

[Berniece]

It's not the problem IMO . He never showed a good climbing level this year meanwhile he rode some of his best classics and TTs this year.

Did he? Classics he rode a great BP, against a shitty WVA, and a great AGR. He was *** at FW and LBL. Then he was *** at Romandie, Dauphine and TDF when he needed to climb. Sure he did great ITT's, but that's a different kind of effort and when you sit perfectly on a bike it's a bit easier.

I expected much more of him, because at no time did he gave me the impression that maybe something was wrong. Sure Dauphine was ***, but they said it was allergies. NC RR he couldn't close the gap to Wellens, but he worked the most all day. There were reasons to think it would be fine. Until he actually completely collapsed during the TDF, and was dropped by 80 riders.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Did he? Classics he rode a great BP, against a shitty WVA, and a great AGR. He was *** at FW and LBL. Then he was *** at Romandie, Dauphine and TDF when he needed to climb. Sure he did great ITT's, but that's a different kind of effort and when you sit perfectly on a bike it's a bit easier.

I expected much more of him, because at no time did he gave me the impression that maybe something was wrong. Sure Dauphine was ***, but they said it was allergies. NC RR he couldn't close the gap to Wellens, but he worked the most all day. There were reasons to think it would be fine. Until he actually completely collapsed during the TDF, and was dropped by 80 riders.

This is what I said. I think it's just hypocritical to write one thing 3 months ago and today are writing the opposite.

 

[Berniece]

This is what I said. I think it's just hypocritical to write one thing 3 months ago and today are writing the opposite.

Well context changes... We learn new stuff every day. The earth is also not the center of the universe. So hypocritical of us to write the opposite.

 

[Ripper]

Did he? Classics he rode a great BP, against a shitty WVA, and a great AGR. He was *** at FW and LBL. Then he was *** at Romandie, Dauphine and TDF when he needed to climb. Sure he did great ITT's, but that's a different kind of effort and when you sit perfectly on a bike it's a bit easier.

I expected much more of him, because at no time did he gave me the impression that maybe something was wrong. Sure Dauphine was ***, but they said it was allergies. NC RR he couldn't close the gap to Wellens, but he worked the most all day. There were reasons to think it would be fine. Until he actually completely collapsed during the TDF, and was dropped by 80 riders.

Yup. I think he has had an objectively crap season so far. Hopefully he can straighten out any health related stuff. The complete collapses he has had do strike as possible an overtraining or energy deficiency issues.

I do hope he switches teams and hopefully coaches. Could be exactly the change he needs (or at least a creates some curiosity on what happens next)

 

[AmRacer]

Program
02.08
Donostia San Sebastian Klasikoa
21.09
World Championships ME - ITT
28.09
World Championships ME - Road Race
01.10
European Continental Championships ME - ITT
05.10
European Continental Championships ME - Road Race

 

[houtdffan]

Program
02.08
Donostia San Sebastian Klasikoa
21.09
World Championships ME - ITT
28.09
World Championships ME - Road Race
01.10
European Continental Championships ME - ITT
05.10
European Continental Championships ME - Road Race

he's doing San Sabastien and then NOTHING until the worlds?

Are they sneaking a Vuelta or something? That schedule makes ZERO sense

 

[Rou]

I don't like this schedule.
He should go to the Vuelta.
Not for GC. He should go for stage hunting, maybe KOM and just building form.
This is a much better buildup for World's IMO.

 

[Eddy Evenepoel]

I don't like this schedule.
He should go to the Vuelta.
Not for GC. He should go for stage hunting, maybe KOM and just building form.
This is a much better buildup for World's IMO.

If there is one thing Remco (and many other in this generation) have shown again and again it is that he doesn’t need to do races to get into form.

 

[Berniece]

Would be ridiculous if he rides San Sebastian

 

[yaco]

He was always likely to ride San Sebastian seeing he's won the race three times.

 

[Valv.Piti]

Lmao sending him to San Sebastian after this disasterclass. Thats just learning absolutely nothing from past mistakes

 

[Rackham]

He was always likely to ride San Sebastian seeing he's won the race three times.

Historically speaking anyone who rides the TdF flunks San Sebastian, hard.

 

[KoopaCycling]

soudal confirmed shedule or just pcs from past statements?

 

[Berniece]

soudal confirmed shedule or just pcs from past statements?

I think PCS, because I haven’t read anything on Belgian news outlets

 

[Sciatic]

Historically speaking anyone who rides the TdF flunks San Sebastian, hard.

Maybe recently, but not historically. Or do you mean someone who DNF’d the Tour does poorly therre?

 

[Prim]

That schedule must be considered old, or highly speculative. OTOH I seem to remember Lombardia being on there before?

 

[AmRacer]

That schedule must be considered old, or highly speculative. OTOH I seem to remember Lombardia being on there before?

San Sebastian has been there for a while. Worlds and European were added today.

PCS

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

It's not the problem IMO . He never showed a good climbing level this year meanwhile he rode some of his best classics and TTs this year.

His best classics? Wut?

 

[Oldman]

If there is one thing Remco (and many other in this generation) have shown again and again it is that he doesn’t need to do races to get into form.

Not having the time from injury to do races would demonstrate just the opposite. Racing forces stresses, not metering them as training usually allows unless he's training with someone stronger than him. His pack awareness skills also could use more honing. Being strong through training and wasting energy during racing nets part of what we've seen. IMO he needs to get his confidence in his overall strength and recovery back on the commanding side if he's to do more GTs. He's done it before and can do it again.

 

[Prim]

San Sebastian has been there for a while. Worlds and European were added today.

PCS

Ah, ok. A bit confounding to say the least.

EDIT: If they were supposed to do health tests the last few days and are now adding races, that could be a positive sign.

 

[Berniece]

Ah, ok. A bit confounding to say the least.

EDIT: If they were supposed to do health tests the last few days and are now adding races, that could be a positive sign.

It's just the national coach that said this, but it was decided before he left in the TDF.

 

[Jan the Man]

I'd have thought building up.with.a stage race like Pologne or Tour of Britain is better than jumping back into San Sebastian then a huge break.

He can do Pologne/Britain then the Worlds and EC. He can then assess the position about a couple of the Italian one day fall races and lombardia depending on form

 

[KoopaCycling]

I prefer my schedule. if we are looking for races.

August
-Bemer classic (possibly too soon)
-Circuit Franco-Belge
- Bretagne Classic

September
- Tour of Britain

- Then in october the real goal of UEC Road Race (&TT)
-Give Lombardi a go

Possibly finish the season with Chrono des Nations.

However depending on Remco health it might be better to skip everything till EUC.

 

[rghysens]

He can win the world TT drunk as a skunk and with Oumi having tired him out

Not this years tt

 

[Berniece]

I prefer my schedule. if we are looking for races.

August
-Bemer classic (possibly too soon)
-Circuit Franco-Belge
- Bretagne Classic

September
- Tour of Britain

- Then in october the real goal of UEC Road Race (&TT)
-Give Lombardi a go

Possibly finish the season with Chrono des Nations.

However depending on Remco health it might be better to skip everything till EUC.

Too much racing imo, and there's also only 2 weeks between Tour of Britain and WC ITT. I would like the following:

• Take 2 weeks of holiday, until 3rd of August
• Train for 3 weeks in Calpe/Belgium
• Deutschland Tour (20/08-24/08)
• Another week of training in Calpe/Belgium where he's with Oumi and family
• Go to altitude on the 1st of September, and maybe even do the altitude training in Rwanda like Campenaerts used to do
• Win WC and UEC double