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I mean, he could win the Tour. There are a lot of obstacles for him though. He's only 18 months younger than Pogacar, so he needs Pogacar to decline and then there to be a window before some younger guys come up who can challenge him. But I'm not sure that they aren't already there. There are some riders like Lipo, Onley, del Toro who have decent potential. I'm not all that confident that Remco would beat them in the Tour. I feel like he should, but he struggles so much with consistency that it's hard to tell. Then after them there will be a new generation of GT riders.
Oscar Onley beating Evenepoel in the tour if both have a clean run and no injuries. That just will not happen. The 2nd best engine in cycling is Remco. We can all see that.
 
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No, I wrote a completely normal statement and you pretend to not understand the way I used the word CAN.

Please hold me accountable and I will do the same for you guys. I'm happy to write I WAS COMPLETELY WRONG if Remco does not win the tour. Bookmark that and you do the same when he does.
I also used the word CAN. I second the second paragraph
 
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ah, when froome, nibali and contador decline, nairo will finally win the tour - he is the biggest talent, just look how young he was when he broke through
Oscar Onley beating Evenepoel in the tour if both have a clean run and no injuries. That just will not happen. The 2nd best engine in cycling is Remco. We can all see that.
one day races and gts are not the same, example #231
 
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While I am firmly on the Remco hype team, I will concede that he has one of the lowest racing IQ's I have ever seen. Every single thing needs to be learned the hard way - and for most things he needs so many reruns to get it. Look at these statements in combination:

“I didn’t feel very fresh in my legs, all day long. Maybe I didn’t digest the hard effort from Tuesday properly, and I started the climb a bit too confidently.”

He also acknowledged tactical impatience on the lower slopes. “Maybe I got caught out by the first attackers. I raced a bit impulsively at the foot of the climb, and a few kilometres later I paid for it.”

So...he felt bad all day but he decided to follow the early attacks on a 25 minute wall.
 
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A bike fitter claiming remco bike fit is part of the problem. Didn't red Bull do all these test to find the right position and all that. Surely this can't' be it. or did red Bull not do tests with long steep climbs in mind? Seems impossible given that some people have considered it a weakness of Remco for a long time. And red bull showing off at the start of the season. I also feel like that 12 km effort still being in the legs is so weird. If a well trained professional endurance athlete known for having a big engine can't recuperate from a 13 minute effort... . That just sounds like grasping at straws.

I think he just needs to be in great form to handle double digit climbs alongside him going into the red early yesterday. Instead of pacing himself. And was unable to recover on such a steep climb.
 
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Yes, Remco! That's it! Please never change!
Maybe translate the original article yourself and see this is just clickbait.
 
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While I am firmly on the Remco hype team, I will concede that he has one of the lowest racing IQ's I have ever seen. Every single thing needs to be learned the hard way - and for most things he needs so many reruns to get it. Look at these statements in combination:

“I didn’t feel very fresh in my legs, all day long. Maybe I didn’t digest the hard effort from Tuesday properly, and I started the climb a bit too confidently.”

He also acknowledged tactical impatience on the lower slopes. “Maybe I got caught out by the first attackers. I raced a bit impulsively at the foot of the climb, and a few kilometres later I paid for it.”

So...he felt bad all day but he decided to follow the early attacks on a 25 minute wall.
Fans called him accountable amd now he is back to making 741 different excuses again

I love the "didnt train at long climbs, which is why I dropped within 10 minutes of climbing" bit
 
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Fans called him accountable amd now he is back to making 741 different excuses again

I love the "didnt train at long climbs, which is why I dropped within 10 minutes of climbing" bit
I also have a soft spot for the excuses, which is yet another reason I enjoy having him in the peloton. My personal favourite is when he offers a few explanations(excuses) for his poor performance and then tacks on, “But no excuses” as if that somehow neutralises everything he just said.
 
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opening ones eyes is enough
Who's eyes? It's not an unexpected result. Maybe the time loss is (2 min) but not that he would lose time on a climb like that early season. He will always need to diesel to the top, no matter the time of the year. It will never be his strength.
 
Agree in general but for the Tour part. He can and will win the Tour. JV and Pog aren't for ever (thankfully). He has by far the third highest ceiling of any GC rider right now. History shows it's possible. The parcour is irrelevant.
Remco either.

Sometimes you forget that Remco debuted in PRO the same year as Pogacar (2019) and that he's only one year and three months younger than him.

Based on their debut year, they're from the same generation.

It´s more likely that there will be a later dominance with Seixas and another cyclist from a later generatio (Perhaps one that doesn't stand out like Vingegaard before 2022) than with Remco, who is from the same generation.
 
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Then make sure you work on that physique from the start of the season. It's like they didn't use any of the knowledge they got from SOQ, and decided to start fresh. Why not reduce the amount of muscles this season already? Why waste another one by thinking that just increasing his threshold is enough for some races when the goal is to win TDF?
Is it this simple? I mean SOQ and Bora have access to great sport scientist - surely every rider has a tipping point where losing weight means they can’t sustain the power. Ultimately people are built differently. This is the hand Remco has been dealt. I agree maintaining his weight if possible rather than seeing big oscillations is better but has he not basically said he’s already at LBL weight - i would not read too much into yesterday’s performance. He won’t face another climb like that until the Summer.

At Catalunya he will face some tough climbs but nothing which really compares. Will it be enough to finish ahead of Jonas, not sure, and yesterday has no bearing on likely performance in the Ardennes etc
 
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I don't really get why people get upset when Remco gives an excuse.
If he says nothing, they would just get upset by him for not saying anything and him just saying he was not good enough.
We all know Remco is both a control freak and an emotional guy.
Honestly he's a great addition to the peloton. Few riders as colourful as him.
 

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At Catalunya he will face some tough climbs but nothing which really compares. Will it be enough to finish ahead of Jonas, not sure, and yesterday has no bearing on likely performance in the Ardennes etc
If he doesn't improve significantly he will lose a lot more than 2 mins on the Col de Pal stage in Catalunya.
Or if he loves it so much he can focus all his effort in the wind tunnel and trying to beat Ganna with more seconds.
 
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I don't really get why people get upset when Remco gives an excuse.
If he says nothing, they would just get upset of him by not saying anything and him just saying he was not good enough.
We all know Remco is both a control freak and an emotional guy.
Honestly he's a great addition to the peloton. Few riders as colourful as him.
Don't know why Remco fanboys getting upset with his Excuses. 🤷
 
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If he doesn't improve significantly he will lose a lot more than 2 mins on the Col de Pal stage in Catalunya.
Or if he loves it so much he can focus all his effort in the wind tunnel and trying to beat Ganna with more seconds.
He has an altitude camp coming up before Catalunya
 
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Is it this simple? I mean SOQ and Bora have access to great sport scientist - surely every rider has a tipping point where losing weight means they can’t sustain the power. Ultimately people are built differently. This is the hand Remco has been dealt. I agree maintaining his weight if possible rather than seeing big oscillations is better but has he not basically said he’s already at LBL weight - i would not read too much into yesterday’s performance. He won’t face another climb like that until the Summer.

At Catalunya he will face some tough climbs but nothing which really compares. Will it be enough to finish ahead of Jonas, not sure, and yesterday has no bearing on likely performance in the Ardennes etc
Yes, it is. Lower weight = better road cyclist.
Great sports scientist is just an oxymoron. I implore people with real science background to read/hear some interviews from the top sports scientists. It is just sad...
It is true that people a built different and also it is part of one's talent to be disciplined enough to stay at a low weight at all times.
In general, unless you are stranded in the Andes and starving to death, losing weight is a good thing for a road cyclist. And, yes, it is possible to lose weight without starving. You just need to be extremely disciplined.
 
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I did and he spoke about the air-conditioning. So instead of trying to defend him all the time you can accept that this is who he is.
He always needs to find an excuse for his failures.
It's not about an excuse, he isn't looking for an excuse... He is just saying that he had a bad nights sleep, but that doesn't change the result or should be used as an excuse, he literally said that the day before already. It's just the same type of people always wanting to discredit him. We can all keep saying, oh AGR came after Roubaix which is why Pogacar got caught in 2025. That's all fine. But saying he woke up due to the heat but that it's no excuse is supposedly Remco looking for excuses...

Is it this simple? I mean SOQ and Bora have access to great sport scientist - surely every rider has a tipping point where losing weight means they can’t sustain the power. Ultimately people are built differently. This is the hand Remco has been dealt. I agree maintaining his weight if possible rather than seeing big oscillations is better but has he not basically said he’s already at LBL weight - i would not read too much into yesterday’s performance. He won’t face another climb like that until the Summer.

At Catalunya he will face some tough climbs but nothing which really compares. Will it be enough to finish ahead of Jonas, not sure, and yesterday has no bearing on likely performance in the Ardennes etc
It was said he was weighing 65kg again, so yeah it's that simple sometimes. I don't understand why he doesn't just try to keep being closer to his TDF weight throughout the season and make his body accustomed to it.
 

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