Teams & Riders The Remco Evenepoel is the next Eddy Merckx thread

[IndurainsTdF1994]

Captain Obvious comment of the day.

the non-favorites would beg to differ

 

[CyclistAbi]

...just checking in to see what Remco complained about today?

All good.

 

[Riek s]

...just checking in to see what Remco complained about today?

He said bad words about those people who wanted to throw 400liter of oil over the riders.

 

[Andre]

...just checking in to see what Remco complained about today?

he complained about you checking in on your obsession.

 

[BigCoward]

If Remco is able to follow or even take time on Pico del Buitre, then it's smooth sailing to the TT, take some more time, and start the Tourmalet stage with a 2-3min lead.

Have you seen JV and Roglic TT?
He might beat them, but he's not putting 1.5-2.5 mins into them in that TT.

 

[Berniece]

Have you seen JV and Roglic TT?
He might beat them, but he's not putting 1.5-2.5 mins into them in that TT.

You are correct, that’s a bit of an exaggeration. I do think he can take a minute on them though. A lot of long stretches going straight ahead.

 

[pelotonIQ]

When you have worked hard to win multiple races from world championships to grand tours it's allowed to be arrogant and additionally Remco is a breath of fresh air as far as personalities within the pro ranks go.

Right now in the vuelta Jumbo obviously have the best cards in their hands and they are patient but QS is so far riding very pragmatic taking bits and pieces of time whenever they can.

 

[tobydawq]

He said bad words about those people who wanted to throw 400liter of oil over the riders.

What a hothead.

 

[Extinction]

Have you seen JV and Roglic TT?
He might beat them, but he's not putting 1.5-2.5 mins into them in that TT.

That depends on whether or not he hits his Words TT form, which could amount to Indurain gaps (relative to the distance). In other words, if his form is similar to Worlds, he simply crushes them.

 

[Salvarani]

What a hothead.

Oil can be hot and he has a head.

 

[Riek s]

That depends on whether or not he hits his Words TT form, which could amount to Indurain gaps (relative to the distance). In other words, if his form is similar to Worlds, he simply crushes them.

Well yeah, but its a real short TT, if he gets 45seconds on the worst JV (be it vingegaard/roglic) it would already be a fantastic ride. The idea he can take 3s/km on what will probably be 50km/h+ is not going to happen imo. 1.5-2s/km maybe (upper end).. which would give 38-50s. (the higher the speed, the lower the amount of time you can take)

 

[RedheadDane]

He said bad words about those people who wanted to throw 400liter of oil over the riders.

Everyone should say bad words about those jerks!

 

[Netserk]

He gained 48" in the 30.9 km long ITT last year on Rogla. The same difference per km this year would result in a 39" difference.

 

[Volderke]

Well yeah, but its a real short TT, if he gets 45seconds on the worst JV (be it vingegaard/roglic) it would already be a fantastic ride. The idea he can take 3s/km on what will probably be 50km/h+ is not going to happen imo. 1.5-2s/km maybe (upper end).. which would give 38-50s. (the higher the speed, the lower the amount of time you can take)

I hold Remco's flat TT in very high esteem, much higher than Roglic (I hold Roglic' hilly TT in very high esteem). Vingegaard seems very solid in all kinds of TT but not dominant in flat TT.
So I reckon, if everybody is up to there level:
+30s max. to Vingegaard
+1' max to Roglic

With regards to 'the higher the speed', I feel Remco has an enormeous top speed in a flat TT and this is where he excells and gets the biggest gaps, so if there is any kind of TT where he can get the biggest gaps, it should be in a flat / downhill TT because he has such a good W/CdA.

 

[Berniece]

He gained 48" in the 30.9 km long ITT last year on Rogla. The same difference per km this year would result in a 39" difference.

But I have the feeling Remco got better while Roglic didn’t. Look at the first stage of the Giro, 19.6km and he takes 43s.

 

[Nick2413]

Despite his earth shattering Tour TT this year I still don’t see Vingegaard automatically best of the rest from Remco in TT. Both he and Pogacar have a history of dialing up god mode in France TTs, although he is a bit better, but I wouldn’t be surprised with 5th place.

Remco prob will take 40ish seconds

 

[Eddy Evenepoel]

15-25sec on Vingegaard, 25-35sec on Roglic is my guess.

 

[Jagartrott]

Needs to get rid of both the red and white jersey so that he can start in his own jersey, which is superior. A bit crazy that being the leader in a classification actually means having a disadvantage in a TT.

 

[Zoetemelk-fan]

Someone close in GC won't get away (at least JV/UAE won't let it i assume) and 6, 8, 9 seem GC material/win. The only way it seems he can loose it is by being dropped by the other favorites....

Hmm...I'd better take my morning coffee, that concept seems a little too complex to me.

 

[Riek s]

Hmm...I'd better take my morning coffee, that concept seems a little too complex to me.

Implying that i don't see him losing red against non-favorites like he intends. (Unless people assume that giving away red means he will deliberatly let Vingegaard/Roglic take back 40seconds)

 

[Berflamand]

Needs to get rid of both the red and white jersey so that he can start in his own jersey, which is superior. A bit crazy that being the leader in a classification actually means having a disadvantage in a TT.

Especially since his own jersey is the World Champs jersey. It would be a shame not to see it in action.

I can understand that the leader's jersey in a stage race takes preference over any national/world championship jersey but imo for any 'minor' jersey (youth, KOM, ...) the rider should have the choice to ride in his/her NC/WC jersey. Or maybe only for a WC jersey.

 

[Zoetemelk-fan]

Implying that i don't see him losing red against non-favorites like he intends. (Unless people assume that giving away red means he will deliberatly let Vingegaard/Roglic take back 40seconds)

Think I get your take. Alpacin will not let non-favorites free for an obvious podium possibility, i.e. in-between lines they will pull QS and rest of favourite field to the finish line.

 

[Volderke]

Especially since his own jersey is the World Champs jersey. It would be a shame not to see it in action.

I can understand that the leader's jersey in a stage race takes preference over any national/world championship jersey but imo for any 'minor' jersey (youth, KOM, ...) the rider should have the choice to ride in his/her NC/WC jersey. Or maybe only for a WC jersey.

I feel a WC TT should always be able to wear the jersey in ANY TT, so also in TTT.

The WC TT can only wear the jersey on average for around 10 days at max. Taking days off because of TTT stupid rules, or leader's jerseys (of which sponsor's logos are very visible on the podium, not so much during the TT)... is a shame.

 

[Andre]

I prefer the "Champion of Belgium" jersey

 

[Berflamand]

I feel a WC TT should always be able to wear the jersey in ANY TT, so also in TTT.

Yeah, I agree. My remark was more generally about road stages in a stage race.