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If Vinge and Pogi decide to dress like that then who knows:
I think that's unlikely.
click on it. It’s a link to a short interview of sivakov where he is asked which one rider in the peloton impresses him the most…
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I think the issue was that it is in French, which not everyone knows well enough to understand, if anything, what he said.
tx for clarifying!
and apologies to @BigCoward
He is asked to pick one pro that impresses him the most. And he says Remco. He says that Remco was on a completely different level than everyone else at San Sebastian (and first week of Vuelta). He said he felt kind of like he had won himself when he finished second. (Oddly that’s what lots of riders used to say during the Merckx era.) He says that while Pog and Vingo are punchier, the thing about Remco is that he just rides you off his wheel and into the ground (literally steamrolls you).
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No problem, yes that was the sense I got, although my French isn't good enough to have picked up everything. So thanks.
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He said Remco > sliced bread > Pogacar/Vingegaard.
He might have left out the part about the sliced bread.
The question was also about 2022.
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I Don't disagree with what Sikavov says about Remco riding people off his wheel.
But Sikavov has never done a Vingergaard, and only has once done a GT with Pogacar, the 2020 tour, when Sikavov crashed on the stage 1 and was doing the whole 3 weeks on grupetto.
So I don't think he can really compare them on a 3 week race. Would be good to hear the opinions of riders like Uran Uran, Roglic or O Connor, who raced against all of them for GC
But Sikavov has never done a Vingergaard, and only has once done a GT with Pogacar, the 2020 tour, when Sikavov crashed on the stage 1 and was doing the whole 3 weeks on grupetto.
So I don't think he can really compare them on a 3 week race. Would be good to hear the opinions of riders like Uran Uran, Roglic or O Connor, who raced against all of them for GC
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Sure, but he was asked about what he has noticed, and as a pro I'm sure he has a clue. At any rate, Remco has clearly picked up the trajectory he was on before the accident. And what he did this year should have been last year without the Lombardia crash, more or less. So next year, bar injury, he should really be flying. Unfortunately if he doesn't go to the Tour we won't see the big rivalry with Pog, Ving, etc
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Mr Lefevere is very confident regarding his cyclist and team:
"I think it's actually easier to win the Tour de France than the Vuelta a España because there's more control by the other team, who watch each other. You only have to follow them and then beat "
Giro-Tour double is on the cards for Mr Evenepoel, Pogi & Vinge had better peak for the Vuelta.
"I think it's actually easier to win the Tour de France than the Vuelta a España because there's more control by the other team, who watch each other. You only have to follow them and then beat "
Giro-Tour double is on the cards for Mr Evenepoel, Pogi & Vinge had better peak for the Vuelta.
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You only have to win the relevant stages and then you win GC
You only have to attack and go solo and thereafter you win GC.
Lefevere is approximating the strategy for the press. Internally within the team, he won't be so cavalier
And Dumoulin and Froome have never been the same since...both went on a downward trajectory after doing the Giro/TdF double. Why do you guys want to burn riders out?
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I don't think Evenepoel should do Giro-Tour for GC next year but Froome's decline had nothing to do with him doing the double and I would argue that it was at best a secondary factor in Dumoulin's case.
Why are you asking me that?
And how does what you are saying make any sense?
Froomes demise has everything to do with the crash he suffered. An injury that is basically career ending.
And to some degree Tom was also struck by injuries. He hurt his knee pretty badly in the 2019 Giro, if I am not mistaken. He then faced mental and motivational issues. He was "never the same" because of a lot of different factors.
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Marco Pantani died 6 years after the Giro/Tour double. He might be onto something here.
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Honestly we have a track record
Armstrong had all of his drama after riding the Giro and Tour.
Contador had all his drama after riding Giro and Tour. Cavendish had his worst Tours at the time after riding the Giro.
MVDP has had a terrible season after riding Giro and Tour.
Roman Kreuziger rode both and had all of his drama the next year.
Alejandro Valverde finishes outside of the top 10 on a GT for the first time since 2012, already an outlier due to the suspension so since 2006.
Maybe they’re right…
Contador was not the same after doing the double.
Quintana was not the same after doing the double.
Froome was not the same after doing the trouble.
Dumoulin was not the same after doing the double.
MVDP is not the same after doing the double.
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Honestly with how wrecked after everyone else was besides himself and how hard it was, Contador’s 2011 Giro and Tour is a better attempt than Froome and Dumoulin. Contador was far more animate in both races, putting in big attacks, and if he didn’t have the crash or attacking like crazy he could have finished on the podium. It just took extra time to add up in his form and the mad lad did it twice!
The double is a problem only after the double. So keep doing consecutive 20 GTs like Hansen and u should be ok. Its the stopping that is the problem
Indeed, if you let a long enough span of years go by, no one is the same after performing in some previous, because everyone’s career trajectory (even Valverde’s, though we had to wonder for a while) eventually trends downward.Maybe they’re right…
Contador was not the same after doing the double.
Quintana was not the same after doing the double.
Froome was not the same after doing the trouble.
Dumoulin was not the same after doing the double.
MVDP is not the same after doing the double.
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Age didn’t cause Valverde’s decline, the triple did.Indeed, if you let a long enough span of years go by, no one is the same after performing in some previous, because everyone’s career trajectory (even Valverde’s, though we had to wonder for a while) eventually trends downward.
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Why would anyone think doing Giro/Tour double is a good idea for Evenepoel?
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A schedule like Pogi's is the optimum if you are a GT rider who can win (and challenge in a wide range of) classics.
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