Teams & Riders The Remco Evenepoel is the next Eddy Merckx thread

[Valv.Piti]

Yeah absolutely. I did the same thing. But that's it. Me and many others were wrong about the route suited him. Were people swarming the Cancellara thread in 2013 mocking him for not being competitive on a route clearly not suiting him?

Considering how Netserk feels about Boonen and Cancellara, that is very likely lol

 

[Gigs_98]

Considering how Netserk feels about Boonen and Cancellara, that is very likely lol

I'll phrase it differently then.
Did people swarm the Boonen thread after every post 2012 RVV mocking him for not being competitive on a route clearly not suiting a mediocre sprinter like him?

 

[Red Rick]

Yeah absolutely. I did the same thing. But that's it. Me and many others were wrong about the route suited him. Were people swarming the Cancellara thread in 2013 mocking him for not being competitive on a route clearly not suiting him?

2013 was crying salty tears Nibali got 4th while being a golden opportunity to flame Valverde. Cancellara has been mocked. Froome has been mocked. All the big guys have been mocked on occasion.

The thing that makes this thread a million pages is that there's a self perpetuating cycle where you have 2 sides that never back down.

 

[Gigs_98]

2013 was crying salty tears Nibali got 4th while being a golden opportunity to flame Valverde. Cancellara has been mocked. Froome has been mocked. All the big guys have been mocked on occasion.

The thing that makes this thread a million pages is that there's a self perpetuating cycle where you have 2 sides that never back down.

Froome maybe, but he was disliked for being the head of an unbelievably hated team. Everyone else, no. They weren't mocked nearly to the same extent as Evenepoel.

 

[Riek s]

Froome maybe, but he was disliked for being the head of an unbelievably hated team. Everyone else, no. They weren't mocked nearly to the same extent as Evenepoel.

it is what it is. At some point, it becomes more important to not respond anymore when the 'discussion' is between groups who have digged their own pit to throw from

(and be prepared as it will get worse either during or after the vuelta )

 

[Netserk]

I'm sure it also required 10 angry responses every time somebody called Valverde Piti back in the day ...

 

[Skijumper Roglic fan]

Friday is gonna be epic. Remco Evenepoel versus Ganna and van Aert.

Remco appeared a bit weak last Sunday. He was off shape, and maybe too weak to ride a bicycle. Next Friday, I expect another Remco.

I think Ganna could live with Silver. Wout will be interesting, also.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

"My father and grandpa Lefevere should stay quiet".
Some serious family argument going on.

 

[Big Doopie]

Especially if he can produce his form from Stage 1 of the Giro d'Italia.

I don’t get that sense. Do you?

If he did, I honestly think it would not even be close. That was perhaps the peakest Remco we’ve seen.

In the meantime a bronze seems most likely, unless Kung can beat him too.

 

[Oldermanish]

Friday is gonna be epic. Remco Evenepoel versus Ganna and van Aert.

Remco appeared a bit weak last Sunday. He was off shape, and maybe too weak to ride a bicycle. Next Friday, I expect another Remco.

I think Ganna could live with Silver. Wout will be interesting, also.

Kung, also. He's looking on form and could beat all of them. He does that once in awhile....
waaaiiiitttt, what?! Pogacar is doing the ITT?

 

[DNP-Old]

Friday is gonna be epic. Remco Evenepoel versus Ganna and van Aert.

Remco appeared a bit weak last Sunday. He was off shape, and maybe too weak to ride a bicycle. Next Friday, I expect another Remco.

I think Ganna could live with Silver. Wout will be interesting, also.

Remco didn't appear weak in the road race at all. He made too many mistakes, but that is something entirely different than being weak.

 

[Carrick-On-Seine]

Why they are calling evenepoel "bambi"?

It's only one poster who's been doing it for years but no one else bothers. Keeps the thread bouncing along though.

 

[proffate]

Froome maybe, but he was disliked for being the head of an unbelievably hated team. Everyone else, no. They weren't mocked nearly to the same extent as Evenepoel.

Because the mockery is proportional to the delta between expected and realized results. You should be comparing Evenepoel to Landa or Mas in that regard.

Probably also related to amount of self awareness displayed in media interviews. Look to Cadel Evans as the measuring stick for unrelatable personality types.

Remco might one day carry himself like a Fabian --- after all, look at the aesthetic transformation of Sagan from 2010 to 2016 --- but it won't be bike exploits that get him there.

 

[LesDiablesRouges]

Because the mockery is proportional to the delta between expected and realized results. You should be comparing Evenepoel to Landa or Mas in that regard.

Probably also related to amount of self awareness displayed in media interviews. Look to Cadel Evans as the measuring stick for unrelatable personality types.

Remco might one day carry himself like a Fabian --- after all, look at the aesthetic transformation of Sagan from 2010 to 2016 --- but it won't be bike exploits that get him there.

This might be the most idiotic post I've seen so far. In what universe are Evenepoel's acheivements comparable to Landa and Mas?

Evenepoel has 2x+ more wins (46-22) than Landa and Mas COMBINED.

He also has a GT, 2 monuments, and WC (RR).

 

[houtdffan]

This might be the most idiotic post I've seen so far. In what universe are Evenepoel's acheivements comparable to Landa and Mas?

Evenepoel has 2x+ more wins (46-22) than Landa and Mas COMBINED.

He also has a GT, 2 monuments, and WC (RR).

It's called Remco Derangement Syndrome

 

[proffate]

This might be the most idiotic post I've seen so far. In what universe are Evenepoel's acheivements comparable to Landa and Mas?

Evenepoel has 2x+ more wins (46-22) than Landa and Mas COMBINED.

He also has a GT, 2 monuments, and WC (RR).

Based on the title of this thread, the expectations are that Remco is the new Merckx. By 1969, Merckx had won the tour, the giro, San Remo thrice, worlds, Liege, Roubaix, Flanders, and too many other races to name.

Remco is not remotely close to that. Therefore his delta is quite high. Landa similarly failed to materialize the results his fans had projected earlier in his career.

Is that explanation straightforward enough for you to grasp?

 

[cogwheel]

Kung, also. He's looking on form and could beat all of them. He does that once in awhile....
waaaiiiitttt, what?! Pogacar is doing the ITT?

Yes, Friday will be one interesting day...

 

[Berniece]

Based on the title of this thread, the expectations are that Remco is the new Merckx.

you are aware that these titles are quite a bit tongue in cheek, right?

 

[SHAD0W93]

you are aware that these titles are quite a bit tongue in cheek, right?

You’re saying Vingegaard didn’t actually eat Rasmussen and Riis for breakfast?

 

[proffate]

you are aware that these titles are quite a bit tongue in cheek, right?

What a weak stab at an argument. Go re-read the first post. The thread starter was obviously not joking, nor was he the first/only one to make the comparison over the years.

 

[SHAD0W93]

What a weak stab at an argument. Go re-read the first post. The thread starter was obviously not joking, nor was he the first/only one to make the comparison over the years.

And was also edited 2 years later. EBH, Kelderman,, and Löfkvist were also said to be the next “Eddy Merckx” or reach a similar level.

 

[Red Rick]

What a weak stab at an argument. Go re-read the first post. The thread starter was obviously not joking, nor was he the first/only one to make the comparison over the years.

While I don't disagree that Evenepoel has had the highest expectations of any rider thread bar maybe Pogacar, using the thread title as proof is just silly.

 

[peterfin]

You’re saying Vingegaard didn’t actually eat Rasmussen and Riis for breakfast?

With that chicken you never know. Not so long ago he turned into a fish!

 

[peterfin]

What a weak stab at an argument. Go re-read the first post. The thread starter was obviously not joking, nor was he the first/only one to make the comparison over the years.

It's funny you mention this because your comments illustrate my recent point. People jump in continuously to teach us a lesson because we are all so blind, stupid or arrogant making such a bold claim.

Of course anyone claiming that an 18 year old junior is the new Eddy Merckx must be partly joking or dreaming. Nobody of the regular posters here claims that he is the new Eddy Merckx. Most likely there will never be a new Merckx.

Actually, it took me while but I also understand why some don't want that the title changes although many asked for it. The purpose of this thread is to feed on the controversy and become the longest ever. It's like the Bold and the Beautiful. It's a soap that never ends. Welcome to the cast! 😄

 

[proffate]

It's funny you mention this because your comments illustrate my recent point. People jump in continuously to teach us a lesson because we are all so blind, stupid or arrogant making such a bold claim.

Of course anyone claiming that an 18 year old junior is the new Eddy Merckx must be partly joking or dreaming. Nobody of the regular posters here claims that he is the new Eddy Merckx. Most likely there will never be a new Merckx.

Actually, it took me while but I also understand why some don't want that the title changes although many asked for it. The purpose of this thread is to feed on the controversy and become the longest ever. It's like the Bold and the Beautiful. It's a soap that never ends. Welcome to the cast! 😄

I have no horse in the Remco race. I honestly don't care if he wins or not. I was bummed when Pog crashed out of Liege because I wanted to see them compete. I would honestly like to see them both at the top of their game doing something spectacular together.

All I did in this thread was offer reasonable explanations for why some people seem to rag on him more than others. I did not teach anyone a lesson, although reading lessons would be advisable for many here. This place really is a tinderbox since somehow it was read into my commentary that I am one of the haters. Nothing anyone has said here has even addressed my points, such is the rage that fills their cup.