Teams & Riders The Remco Evenepoel is the next Eddy Merckx thread

[Divergence]

Obviously they do when coupled with other zones (mainly z2 and z4). What I'm saying is that Remco is most of the time very good at 5-minute steep climbs but often collapses in long climbs.

Zones are largely an academic thing. if one rides hard during training one will improve (I am not talking about sprinting, that belongs to the track anyway).

 

[VayaVayaVaya]

But Onley didn't say he would win if....
And also didn't say he aiming for...
And also don't uses it as an excuse why he failed.... And his fanboys don't do it either.

Tbf, I’m guessing most of us don’t know what Onley has or hasn’t said. Nor do we care. That’s the price of getting paid $6M or whatever Remco’s getting paid.

 

[Netserk]

There was something wrong with his bike during WC RR…

afaik , not both in reality

 

[Divergence]

I have been reading the past few pages and I struggle to understand what would have been a good pre UAE interview from Remco according to his fans. Should he have said:
1. I am not good enough, but I will try.
2. I can and I want to win (basically what he said).
3. I was gonna be good enough to win but I am starting the race after being sick the past few days so I will not be in contention.
4. We will see what happens.

The way I see it, he has a lot of pressure from his fans and from his inner circle and it seems to me that most of them either do not have good suggestions for him but are happy to egg him on because he earns some ad money or are completely delusional.

 

[Netserk]

I have been reading the past few pages and I struggle to understand what would have been a good pre UAE interview from Remco according to his fans. Should he have said:
1. I am not good enough, but I will try.
2. I can and I want to win (basically what he said).
3. I was gonna be good enough to win but I am starting the race after being sick the past few days so I will not be in contention.
4. We will see what happens.

The way I see it, he has a lot of pressure from his fans and from his inner circle and it seems to me that most of them either do not have good suggestions for him but are happy to egg him on because he earns some ad money or are completely delusional.

if you know 2 is false you go with 4

 

[Divergence]

if you know 2 is false you go with 4

Yes, but Rog says that constantly and sponsors are not interested in paying him million of euros per year.

 

[Berniece]

afaik , not both in reality

First time there was, second time there wasn’t. And that second time was his mind saying something was wrong because his body needed readjusting again.

 

[VayaVayaVaya]

Yes, but Rog says that constantly and sponsors are not interested in paying him million of euros per year.

When he spoke his mind, pretty innocuously, about wanting to compete for the win in the 2023 Vuelta to tie the record, that didn’t go over too well.

 

[Netserk]

First time there was, second time there wasn’t. And that second time was his mind saying something was wrong because his body needed readjusting again.

so a perfect example

 

[Berniece]

so a perfect example

The complete opposite…

 

[Divergence]

When he spoke his mind, pretty innocuously, about wanting to compete for the win in the 2023 Vuelta to tie the record, that didn’t go over too well.

Well, those were just some American softies who thought one should gift a GT victory. I think he gained more fans than he lost by openly proclaiming he is there to win. In contrast, I think, by bing deceitful, Jonas lost quite a few fans.

 

[KoopaCycling]

I think we can all agree that remco needs to either improve his climbing or change his goals. (personally i want him to stick to the plan till after the Tour).

I'm curious though what you all think about the mental part of remco.
I still get the feeling he needs to take a page from Roglic his book and ride more stress-free. More relaxed.
In my opinion he seems to be riding with self-imposed stress. Take Rwanda for example. It was one thing not being able to follow Pogacar on the hardest part of the race. Completely & unnecessary imploding for the next 15 minutes is an entire other thing. Only to then find strenght back in his legs when all was already lost and all that was left was to ride as best as he could. Once he was free, he suddenly become the 2nd best rider in the peloton. Or it is just my own imagination that Remco performs best when he looks relaxed, when his mind is free.

I mean that's an obvious statement, that you perform better when your not feeling under pressure. It just that he seems to build his own pressure paperweight that's constantly pushing down on him when he is not fully certain he can be the best. And when he is released from that he just becomes what he could be.

 

[Red Rick]

Well, those were just some American softies who thought one should gift a GT victory. I think he gained more fans than he lost by openly proclaiming he is there to win. In contrast, I think, by bing deceitful, Jonas lost quite a few fans.

I only realise now that Roglic and Vingegaard then proceeded to win the next 2 Vuelta's themselves