If you have won a GT and finished 3rd at the TdF you are good enough to add one to the list each yeae . And yes he should focus on more monuments and major 1-week races too but I disagree he is just average when he is back on top after an injury. His autumn was great. Summer 2024 was great too.
If you have won a GT and finished 3rd at the TdF you are good enough to add one to the list each yeae . And yes he should focus on more monuments and major 1-week races too but I disagree he is just average when he is back on top after an injury. His autumn was great. Summer 2024 was great too.
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Prudhomme said Remco does not lose enough time in mountains to justify adding long time trials?
What races are he and Gouvenou watching?
Prudhomme said Remco does not lose enough time in mountains to justify adding long time trials?
What races are he and Gouvenou watching?
Why should the Tour be tailor made for Remco
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i read it as the opposite
evenepoel is not good enough so far to be the main challenger for the victory , so the main effect of long tts now would be the effect on the pogi-vingegaard duel , where longer tts just favour whoever is also the best climber
if evenepoel was the main rival , then longer tts would make the battle for the victory closer
Everything just needs to be perfect. From the route to getting a little chocolate on a fluffy pillow in the hotel in the evening. I mean, who doesnt want that?
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Indeed. Evenepoel isn’t as dominant in ITT as Pogacar in the mountains. As long as that level of dominance isn’t closer together it doesn’t matter
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Remco lost 3 minutes on Hautacam.
In 2024, he finished at the same distance as Martinez in the Giro, considering that Vingegaard was Pogacar's rival. If they considered Remco a main rival for the Tour, they would surely put more time on him in the mountains because they would attack him.
Pogacar performs better in the Tour time trial because he trains for this; he wouldn't lose 5 minutes.
To think that Remco is just one long time trial away from winning the Tour is self-deception.
In 2024, he finished at the same distance as Martinez in the Giro, considering that Vingegaard was Pogacar's rival. If they considered Remco a main rival for the Tour, they would surely put more time on him in the mountains because they would attack him.
Pogacar performs better in the Tour time trial because he trains for this; he wouldn't lose 5 minutes.
To think that Remco is just one long time trial away from winning the Tour is self-deception.
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For sure.
I certainly haven't read all the posts in this thread, but is anyone actually saying anything like that?
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In fact you have @houtdffan who thinks Remco has a chance in the Tour if we went back to 2 long TTs and 1 TTT in the TdF. So yeah, there is someone. And no, current Remco doesn't have a chance against Pogacar in any type of route.
canina82: there are people who say Remco is just one long TT away from winning the Tour.
flanders: Are there?
canina82: Yeah, there is this user who thinks he would have a chance if there were two long TTs and a TTT.
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I think a 1997 course would be good for Evenepoel. Though overall I wish we had more TT kms to split the race up more and hopefully incentivize those further down to attack.
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Sometimes people forget how many kilometers had the mountain stages the routes of other decades, and how many HC climbs they had.
With those mountain stages, he'd lose more than the 10 minutes he lost in 2024.
And it's science fiction to think they'll include 100km of time trial if the mountain stages are ridiculous 150km stages with a one HC mountain pass.
Even so, with the current mountain stages, if Remco equalas his best mountain performance, he should win him more than 10 minutes in ITTs, and considering that he's became the second favorite with this route, those 10 minutes could be more because they would attack him.
With those mountain stages, he'd lose more than the 10 minutes he lost in 2024.
And it's science fiction to think they'll include 100km of time trial if the mountain stages are ridiculous 150km stages with a one HC mountain pass.
Even so, with the current mountain stages, if Remco equalas his best mountain performance, he should win him more than 10 minutes in ITTs, and considering that he's became the second favorite with this route, those 10 minutes could be more because they would attack him.
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Well first, that's hardly equivalent to the quote to which I responded.
If you have to change the quote to make the point...
Second, if there were 2 long (how long is the question) TT's and 1 long TT, yeah, I think he'd have a "chance". A small chance. But again, that's completely different than the quote to which I responded. It's not "one long TT away from winning".
Right?
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We'll, I've already given the reasons, in this post, why thinking Remco won't win the Tour because of the route is self-deception.
Remco isn't Indurain, and Pogacar and Vingegaard aren't Bugno.
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No one is saying that. Always the same people trying to spin a narrative as if Evenepoel fans are delusional
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On previous occasions I have also read comments in this thread from those who think he didn't win a Tour because of the route.
It has been a fairly widespread idea on social media and among some journalists
That's why they're asking the Tour director; they firmly believe he would win the Tour with a longer time trial.
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I don’t believe that anyone in their right mind believes that. It might make the race more exciting, but he doesn’t win by default
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It would also be more exciting to have agonizing 250km mountain stages like before.
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Maybe there are lots of fans not in their right mind.
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I mean, I've never read anyone on this forum saying that, but again, I don't read every thread. It's at best a fringe POV, and should be quoted if someone is actually saying it. Too easy to shift the commentary and make a straw man without an actual quote as we immediately saw from another poster after I questioned your original comment.
IMO you should specifically address outside media sources in your comments. If I thought you were talking about some rando posting on Twitter, I'd have moved right past. You can literally find any idiotic opinion in the world on social media. I responded to your statement because in the context of this forum, without those clarifications, it sounds like you're suggesting someone here holds these opinions.
Which I've not seen.
I mean, is there really anyone (here) at this point making such a fuss about Remco's chances to win the Tour that we need fairly constant commentary on how that's wildly unlikely? We can all see we're in a phase with the most dominant rider since Merckx. Remco is inconsistent AF in GT's. It's not close. We all get it.
Nobody said Remco would win with a long ITT
What has been said is that with 2 long ITTs and a very long TTT, the flow of the race would be dramatically different
What has been said is that with 2 long ITTs and a very long TTT, the flow of the race would be dramatically different
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