Teams & Riders The Remco Evenepoel is the next Eddy Merckx thread

[jmdirt]

He would probably have won today without the crash and gained time on everyone

...except his main rival for GC.

 

[kamaveli]

I think it was exciting and all, but I don't think they are too happy at Red Bull. After all they bought him in to win GCs not some random stages.
Against a field like this he needs to ride more conserving. They should pair him up with Roglic to teach him to not waste his watts during stage races.

 

[Berniece]

Honestly he sometimes has the race intellect of a 10-year old. Was the attack amazing, yes. Does he look amazing on the bike, yes. Is it funny when he gets angry, yes. But what was the whole point of this? To go for a stage win, when the bigger target is the GC? You dropped UAE, and a couple of other GC contenders in echelons. Almost the whole Visma and RBH team are there. You can easily ride together, and probably take 1-2min on Almeida. But no, you have to ride away for some weird reason to get a stage win. Forgetting or not being intelligent enough to understand that you only take 20-30s, and chances are high your co-leader Lipowitz gets caught by UAE again. Amazing work of Lodewyck too again that he doesn't call Evenepoel back. A moron as DS.

Also this was the hole which made him crash.

 

[peterfin]

I think it was exciting and all, but I don't think they are too happy at Red Bull. After all they bought him in to win GCs not some random stages.
Against a field like this he needs to ride more conserving. They should pair him up with Roglic to teach him to not waste his watts during stage races.

He said that the goal of the day was to make echelons and go for a stage victory. If they wanted him to sit back and relax, they should be more explicit. If they do not understand that they need to channel his drive to compete in a GC, then that's equally a management failure.

 

[chickenlips]

Maybe he was trying to prove that he is the leader of the team, whilst Lipo behind is thinking, you go for it dude, pointless exercise with my terrain coming up.

 

[Berniece]

Maybe he was trying to prove that he is the leader of the team, whilst Lipo behind is thinking, you go for it dude, pointless exercise with my terrain coming up.

Both riders don't seem to have any issue with being co-leaders.

 

[rghysens]

WHAT?

Wait, now he has no excuses to not have an excuse.

 

[Berniece]

Ready to go at it again. Hopefully injuries aren't too bad, and we can see him perform again tomorrow. Don't want a Vuelta 2022 scenario where he has difficulties climbing the second day after his crash.

 

[Gratemans]

Ridiculous. Losing your temper in the race and gesticulating at Vingo is not whining, its a lack of composure and racecraft and exciting for the fans. But its not whining and its not making excuses. The main excuses i see are fake strawman excuses made by his detractors.

He's super exciting, honest and emotional and really fun to watch and root for.

I can see why you and many think its annoying but I really dont think he's arrogant at all.

I don't think he's arrogant at all. But I gotta agree with Pippo here, I do think he's an incessant whiner.
Yes, he's often a very exciting racer. And it's a thing of beauty to witness him on a TT bike.
But each and everytime I begin to feel a bit of sympathy for him, he immediately spoils it. Like the jab he took at Vingegaard yesterday. I mean come on, do you even get how cycling a stagerace works?
Don't get me started about his gesticulating. It's like he always feels mistreated by the entire world. And I really can't stand people like that.
It really is a shame because yeah, I want to be a fan, he just makes it impossible for me. But to each his own.

 

[Peter von]

Honestly he sometimes has the race intellect of a 10-year old. Was the attack amazing, yes. Does he look amazing on the bike, yes. Is it funny when he gets angry, yes. But what was the whole point of this? To go for a stage win, when the bigger target is the GC? You dropped UAE, and a couple of other GC contenders in echelons. Almost the whole Visma and RBH team are there. You can easily ride together, and probably take 1-2min on Almeida. But no, you have to ride away for some weird reason to get a stage win. Forgetting or not being intelligent enough to understand that you only take 20-30s, and chances are high your co-leader Lipowitz gets caught by UAE again. Amazing work of Lodewyck too again that he doesn't call Evenepoel back. A moron as DS.

Also this was the hole which made him crash.

Yeah. If he has the strength to win GC he will almost definitely win one or two stages anyway. Maybe if he waited, the teams would start blowing up and he could have launched closer to finish line from a smaller more tired group, without bringing the groups together and not going in to next stages having burnt more matches than opponents.
IDK if the cars were too far away for radio contact or what, but yeah they should have been telling the team to keep pushing and for Remco to look for windows of opportunity closer to finish line or after gap has grown to X-amount.

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I really hope that Remco though Vingo and the Visma rider that blew up in his wheel is the same guy, because then at least it makes a little sense that Remco would gesture the way he did if he thought Vingo had been in his wheel for a long time.
But also yeah, he surely must have realized this move wasn't even really in Remcos best interest let alone Vingegaards. Next up he will be mad that Pogi doesn't agree to just take it easy on mountain stages at the Tour and settle it all on the TT bike.

 

[Berniece]

Yeah. If he has the strength to win GC he will almost definitely win one or two stages anyway. Maybe if he waited, the teams would start blowing up and he could have launched closer to finish line from a smaller more tired group, without bringing the groups together and not going in to next stages having burnt more matches than opponents.
IDK if the cars were too far away for radio contact or what, but yeah they should have been telling the team to keep pushing and for Remco to look for windows of opportunity closer to finish line or after gap has grown to X-amount.

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I really hope that Remco though Vingo and the Visma rider that blew up in his wheel is the same guy, because then at least it makes a little sense that Remco would gesture the way he did if he thought Vingo had been in his wheel for a long time.
But also yeah, he surely must have realized this move wasn't even really in Remcos best interest let alone Vingegaards. Next up he will be mad that Pogi doesn't agree to just take it easy on mountain stages at the Tour and settle it all on the TT bike.

I want to say, he's young, he'll learn, but he's been riding 7 years as a pro now. He's not learning it anymore, and neither will Lodewyck.