Teams & Riders The Remco Evenepoel is the next Eddy Merckx thread

[Extinction]

On to Roubaix! He should go. He's got nothing to lose.

 

[No Excuses]

Great debut at Ronde. If MvDP doesn't pull, a sprint for 2nd place was possible.

 

[canina82]

On to Roubaix! He should go. He's got nothing to lose.

I don't think it would be a good idea. He didn't look great on the cobbles.

 

[Extinction]

I don't think it would be a good idea. He didn't look great on the cobbles.

They were uphill, Roubaix is different. I'm just saying do it for the experience and he should be up there in any case.

 

[KoopaCycling]

On to Amstel Gold ,after some rest. I don't think it's a good idea to ride Roubaix if he wants to win at Amstel and compete in LBL.

Remco is a great one day racer and if he rides more of them he should win more of them. But the one he rode so far he could not have been in better shape imo except maybe for short climbing bursts. As Remco is juggling the short climbs with the longer climbs. that's about it.

A good performance that once again shows he is amongst the closest to Pogacar & MVDP. Proving he can win those races if Pogacar is not there.

 

[Brullnux]

Rode like a fool and will be mighty proud so will continue to ride like a fool in the future.

He made one mistake and paid for it, but he wouldn't have actually been close to a win anyway. He lost significant ground on every cobbled sector, especially the Koppenberg but even the Mariaborrestraat. If he spends more time preparing for this race, both the climbing and his cobbles confidence/technique then it will be a different story.

 

[canina82]

They were uphill, Roubaix is different. I'm just saying do it for the experience and he should be up there in any case.

You give me more reason. The fact it was uphill minimize how bad he looked a couple of times. Remco is very good in short hills, the problem is not his climbing... but maybe he can try in PR and see what he can do.

 

[Red Rick]

He made one mistake and paid for it, but he wouldn't have actually been close to a win anyway. He lost significant ground on every cobbled sector, especially the Koppenberg but even the Mariaborrestraat. If he spends more time preparing for this race, both the climbing and his cobbles confidence/technique then it will be a different story.

That's true.

It's just especially funny coming from a guy who comlains Vingegaard doesn't race to win.

 

[Brullnux]

They were uphill, Roubaix is different. I'm just saying do it for the experience and he should be up there in any case.

When he went into the Mariaborrestraat he was 3s down, and then be came out 8s down. Pogacar did go fairly hard but there's a weakness there and the Roubaix cobbles are big step up. There is a lot of risk involved in Roubaix in a way there isn't for Flanders. Next year, maybe, but he has to give it actual thought and preparation.

I was personally quite surprised by the different to the eye between Evenepoel and the other four. Flanders' cobbles aren't that hard other than the Koppenberg but he just didn't look right on them

 

[LookProGoSlow]

Well done!

 

[Extinction]

You give me more reason. The fact it was uphill minimize how bad he looked a couple of times. Remco is very good in short hills, the problem is not his climbing... but maybe he can try in PR and see what he can do.

Like I said he should just do it. There is only presence and effort. The years go by and they do not return.

 

[Extinction]

When he went into the Mariaborrestraat he was 3s down, and then be came out 8s down. Pogacar did go fairly hard but there's a weakness there and the Roubaix cobbles are big step up. There is a lot of risk involved in Roubaix in a way there isn't for Flanders. Next year, maybe, but he has to give it actual thought and preparation.

I was personally quite surprised by the different to the eye between Evenepoel and the other four. Flanders' cobbles aren't that hard other than the Koppenberg but he just ddidn't look right on them

Yea, but the damage was done uphill. After 220+ km in the legs, when you are alone you tend to lose ground. The point is that Roubaix is flat, so he should go to see how he does on the pavé. He won't win Liege or the Tour, so now's the time to mix things up, dare, focus on performance and see how it goes.

 

[Red Rick]

When he went into the Mariaborrestraat he was 3s down, and then be came out 8s down. Pogacar did go fairly hard but there's a weakness there and the Roubaix cobbles are big step up. There is a lot of risk involved in Roubaix in a way there isn't for Flanders. Next year, maybe, but he has to give it actual thought and preparation.

I was personally quite surprised by the different to the eye between Evenepoel and the other four. Flanders' cobbles aren't that hard other than the Koppenberg but he just didn't look right on them

I think a lot of it was down to gradient as well, as he was able to hold on the first time up Oude Kwaremont and then didn't lose an absurd amount to Van der Poel on the final one.

 

[Brullnux]

Yea, but the damage was done uphill. After 220+ km in the legs, when you are alone you tend to lose ground. The point is that Roubaix is flat, so he should go to see how he does on the pavé. He won't win Liege or the Tour, so now's the time to mix things up, dare, focus on performance and see how it goes.

He has more chance in the Ardennes than in Roubaix and he if he hasn't reconned it or prepared for it he does actually run the risk of a crash and a bad injury. There's no benefit and there's a lot of downside.

I think he should race it next year, after a properly focused spring, not as a last minute addition with no prep.

 

[Brullnux]

I think a lot of it was down to gradient as well, as he was able to hold on the first time up Oude Kwaremont and then didn't lose an absurd amount to Van der Poel on the final one.

He was slower than Van Aert up the final Kwaremont, like 20s behind van der Poel in a three minute effort.

 

[Red Rick]

He was slower than Van Aert up the final Kwaremont, like 20s behind van der Poel in a three minute effort.

Which I would quite heaviliy put down to the fatigue of being solo for like 40k already.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

Youngest rider in the Top 10 (in his 8th pro season), so he just needs to wait for Uncle Pogačar to retire, just like Quintana in the Tour

 

[AmRacer]

On to Amstel Gold ,after some rest. I don't think it's a good idea to ride Roubaix if he wants to win at Amstel and compete in LBL.

Remco is a great one day racer and if he rides more of them he should win more of them. But the one he rode so far he could not have been in better shape imo except maybe for short climbing bursts. As Remco is juggling the short climbs with the longer climbs. that's about it.

A good performance that once again shows he is amongst the closest to Pogacar & MVDP. Proving he can win those races if Pogacar is not there.

I fully agree with this, he should focus training on short steep climbs.

 

[AmRacer]

Pogi got fourth in his first try, Remco third.

 

[Extinction]

He has more chance in the Ardennes than in Roubaix and he if he hasn't reconned it or prepared for it he does actually run the risk of a crash and a bad injury. There's no benefit and there's a lot of downside.

I think he should race it next year, after a properly focused spring, not as a last minute addition with no prep.

He showed he's up their with the best specialists today, who will be the same at Roubaix. Perhaps not doing recon as you say could be a hazard, but Roubaix is insidious to all. My point is that the Ardennes, at least Liege, the big one, looks out of reach with Tadej. So I think Roubaix could be good for him to be there, plus it's good for cycling.

 

[EddyMazzoleni]

He was slower than Van Aert up the final Kwaremont, like 20s behind van der Poel in a three minute effort.

Of all the hills, he looked the best on second Kwaremont, closing the gap that Pedersen opened up and then jumping WVA. After that he always lost a handfull of seconds at a time, but that's also a product of pushing on the flats to try and close the gap

 

[red_flanders]

I like the way he stayed in it and fought to the end. Impressive podium. Great debut. A lot to be proud of for him IMO.

 

[AmRacer]

So, has he been training more for RVV than UAE and Catalunya?

 

[AmRacer]

Victory isn't possible when Pogi racing

 

[KoopaCycling]

So, has he been training more for RVV than UAE and Catalunya?

I think he wanted to do well at both but 'failed' at Catalunya due to crash and a relative bad first mountain day.