Teams & Riders The Remco Evenepoel is the next Eddy Merckx thread

[Oldman]

I’m very high on Seixas. Huge for sure. And would love him to crush Pog.

But l’m not 100% sure he has surpassed Remco on a course like LBL yet. Maybe. But not yet, I think. His Basque rides were great but ultimately he couldn’t drop Lipowitz, so we will see.

Yeah, don't think that's happening. Pogi can take a beating so can't see anyone "crushing" him. Likewise, I wouldn't think he'd do more than usual after he gets a gap; maintain it and monitor what's going on behind.

 

[AlpRaid]

Yeah, don't think that's happening. Pogi can take a beating so can't see anyone "crushing" him. Likewise, I wouldn't think he'd do more than usual after he gets a gap; maintain it and monitor what's going on behind.

Oh for sure. Without mishap Pog wins this easy. I am just hoping Seixas can rival him sooner rather than later.

I see more of a reenactment of the EC last fall. Maybe Seixas comes in with Remco this time.

 

[houtdffan]

Oh for sure. Without mishap Pog wins this easy. I am just hoping Seixas can rival him sooner rather than later.

I see more of a reenactment of the EC last fall. Maybe Seixas comes in with Remco this time.

that would be a massive improvement.

Remco was 30 seconds behind Pog while Sexias was about 3 minutes behind Remco.

Remco lost 40 seconds on the stretch where Sexias was doing the work in front.

Sexias has a ways to go to challenge Remco regularly, much less Pog

 

[Berniece]

Oh for sure. Without mishap Pog wins this easy. I am just hoping Seixas can rival him sooner rather than later.

I see more of a reenactment of the EC last fall. Maybe Seixas comes in with Remco this time.

Hopefully Seixas actually takes turns this time instead of staying in the wheel

 

[Krzysztof_O]

I’m very high on Seixas. Huge for sure. And would love him to crush Pog.

But l’m not 100% sure he has surpassed Remco on a course like LBL yet. Maybe. But not yet, I think. His Basque rides were great but ultimately he couldn’t drop Lipowitz, so we will see.

Remco is the 2nd LBL favourite until proven otherwise, he's just super good during long races on this kind of terrain. Seixas is a step below, I would place him at #3 in terms of winning/podiuming probability but normally there should be some guys (i.e. Pidcock when healthy) with similar odds.

 

[Lequack]

Is he riding Fleche or not?

 

[Rechtschreibfehler]

Is he riding Fleche or not?

According to PCS he is.

 

[KoopaCycling]

According to PCS he is.

Pretty sure he is not.
I also read an article that said Pogacar is riding Amstel. Despite his program never having included it for this year.

 

[Berniece]

Is he riding Fleche or not?

They have always said he won't. Maybe they let it depend based on how AGR went, how tired he is after the race, and how the weather is during Fleche. The most important race is LBL. He needs to be 100% there. If he's slightly off, chances of winning are 0.

 

[Taxus4a]

Remco is the 2nd LBL favourite until proven otherwise, he's just super good during long races on this kind of terrain. Seixas is a step below, I would place him at #3 in terms of winning/podiuming probability but normally there should be some guys (i.e. Pidcock when healthy) with similar odds.

iIf he is at last year, Worlds-European-Lombadie level (profile where Pogacar is clearly better) I put him at the same level than Poggi to win, Pogacar is a better sprinter, but no much difference in that. Everything depends on how he manage the strategy and his head, main problem for Remco. Remco can beat Pogacar or finish at a disco pub on Spa before to finish the race or in a river thowing stones to the water....

If Pogacar attacck at la Redoute and nobody can follow him, with is quite possible, in the case, Remco and Seixas are close, and Del Toro Behind them, I am pretty sure they will catch Pogacar and everything can happend. Last part, of descent and flat in Liege is much better for Remco except for the sprint. Remco is super powerfull for thi kind of climb of about 2 km. But maybe Pogacar is better, at least an attack in a 15 % slope. We will see! For me is the race of the century, if all of them are face to face as it happened at Flandes, becouse is a race wich suits very well both Remco (despite 5000 m elevation gain) and Pogacar. If forst climb are climbed at a high speed as UAE did at Roubaix, always hard..maybe is worse for Remco, but I am not sure.

 

[KoopaCycling]

Will del Toro race LBL?
I thought he was gonna skip the Ardennes after his crash

 

[Berniece]

Will del Toro race LBL?
I thought he was gonna skip the Ardennes after his crash

Don't think he's riding anything

 

[Coppi-Bartali]

iIf he is at last year, Worlds-European-Lombadie level (profile where Pogacar is clearly better) I put him at the same level than Poggi to win, Pogacar is a better sprinter, but no much difference in that. Everything depends on how he manage the strategy and his head, main problem for Remco. Remco can beat Pogacar or finish at a disco pub on Spa before to finish the race or in a river thowing stones to the water....

If Pogacar attacck at la Redoute and nobody can follow him, with is quite possible, in the case, Remco and Seixas are close, and Del Toro Behind them, I am pretty sure they will catch Pogacar and everything can happend. Last part, of descent and flat in Liege is much better for Remco except for the sprint. Remco is super powerfull for thi kind of climb of about 2 km. But maybe Pogacar is better, at least an attack in a 15 % slope. We will see! For me is the race of the century, if all of them are face to face as it happened at Flandes, becouse is a race wich suits very well both Remco (despite 5000 m elevation gain) and Pogacar. If forst climb are climbed at a high speed as UAE did at Roubaix, always hard..maybe is worse for Remco, but I am not sure.

I don't understand the phrase that if they're at last fall's level they can beat him. Last year he didn't have any chance.

 

[Berniece]

I don't understand the phrase that if they're at last fall's level they can beat him. Last year he didn't have any chance.

Was he at fall's level last year?

 

[Coppi-Bartali]

Was he at fall's level last year?

Was he close to beating him in the autumn? Not in the World Championship, nor in the European Championship, nor in Lombardy.

 

[Berniece]

Was he close to beating him in the autumn? Not in the World Championship, nor in the European Championship, nor in Lombardy.

No he wasn't. Although I still have to see how WC RR would've went without mechanicals. I think Pogacar would've still dropped him eventually though.

UEC RR and Lombardia were harder and different from LBL. With much longer climbs.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

No he wasn't. Although I still have to see how WC RR would've went without mechanicals. I think Pogacar would've still dropped him eventually though.

UEC RR and Lombardia were harder and different from LBL. With much longer climbs.

Lombardy and WC were more difficult but EC had a lot of flats and Pogacar held well on those. Remco might catch Pog after Redoute but I am far from certain. Even if he does Pog may strike again later. On this kind of profile I still rate Pogs engine higher so Remco catching him is not obvious (it might happen).

 

[Berniece]

Lombardy and WC were more difficult but EC had a lot of flats and Pogacar held well on those. Remco might catch Pog after Redoute but I am far from certain. Even if he does Pog may strike again later. On this kind of profile I still rate Pogs engine higher so Remco catching him is not obvious (it might happen).

It was all about that 7km climb in UEC RR. That’s where he dropped Evenepoel and took a bigger advantage. In LBL the climbs are shorter so his gap, if he takes one, will be smaller. Maybe Evenepoel will just hang on

 

[Krzysztof_O]

It was all about that 7km climb in UEC RR. That’s where he dropped Evenepoel and took a bigger advantage. In LBL the climbs are shorter so his gap, if he takes one, will be smaller. Maybe Evenepoel will just hang on

In Liege everything is shorter: climbs but also aero sections. The total elevation is pretty big. I think its more likely Evenepoel will lose little time and catch up later than him hanging on (which could be a mistake). We will see, the finale could get interesting, that we agree on.

 

[Berniece]

In Liege everything is shorter: climbs but also aero sections. The total elevation is pretty big. I think its more likely Evenepoel will lose little time and catch up later than him hanging on (which could be a mistake). We will see, the finale could get interesting, that we agree on.

I want to say that AGR will show us what’s possible the week after, but that didn’t work out last year

 

[Krzysztof_O]

I want to say that AGR will show us what’s possible the week after, but that didn’t work out last year

Well, Remco should be better than last year given his preparation. Winning solo seems feasible.