Pity you couldn't combine Pinot and Bardet's characteristics into one rider and then you'd have a certain GC contender. If only Bardet could TT and Pinot could descend.
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Sylvain Chavanel was killed by that belief.
Said he loved racing Paris-Roubaix in 2001 (52th) but didn't take part in it until 2009.
He didn't race Ronde van Vlaanderen until 2008...
Metabolol said:
Sylvain Chavanel was killed by that belief.
Said he loved racing Paris-Roubaix in 2001 (52th) but didn't take part in it until 2009.
He didn't race Ronde van Vlaanderen until 2008...
Gosh! I got mixed emotions: great ride, nice podium, but call me greedy I was expecting more. He looked really strong, attacked and responded to attacks, spent a lot of energy that may have cost him in the final 5K. That's racing. Bravo Thibaut.
I think he spends so much energy because he fears that otherwise he'll be gapped on the descents, the fear of loosing time on the descents makes him race aggressive.Tonton said:
3rd at Lombardia, 10th in WT standings.
What a year he had. Great ride today, too bad Moreno chased him every time.
What a year he had. Great ride today, too bad Moreno chased him every time.
Tonton said:
Moreno dropped him on the San Fermo. 3rd was the best place he could get.
He's not explosive enough to be a real classics contender. That's why Lombardia is his best shot, because that's more for climbers then real classic riders. In Liege, Fleche and Amstel he doesn't stand a chance.
But great perfomance today.
Arredondo said:
Agree. The longest, second to last climb suited his diesel style better, the last one was shorter: not his cup of tea. It is his MO, as seen at the TDS or on la Croix de Fer: he takes a while to get going. Yet, on the San Fernando, he dropped all but Moreno, so props to him. His weaknesses are greatly exaggerated: it's in the descent of the Croix de Fer that he won l'Alpe stage, and today he hardly lost any time to Nibali or the Valverde group.
Sure that winning the monuments you mentioned would be very hard for him. But the GDL one day, I think he will.
Tonton said:
Sure, one day he will get his chance. Perhaps he should try a same approach he did this year, so no Vuelta and a light racing schedule after the Tour. He's got the racing attitude to win it.
Unfortunately being French means Pinot will never get the most out of his talent,seeing the TDF takes precedence. Pinot should ride for a N0n-French team.
Great ride today, he looked really strong. Pinot vs Aru vs Quintana looks like it could be a thing 
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Which wouldnt be bad! Pinot and Aru arent afraid when they have something left in the tank and usually just goes, while Quintana occasionally shows that
Hugo Koblet said:Great ride today, he looked really strong. Pinot vs Aru vs Quintana looks like it could be a thing
Which wouldnt be bad! Pinot and Aru arent afraid when they have something left in the tank and usually just goes, while Quintana occasionally shows that
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At the Giro? Some good TTer might be in the mix as well. Will get 3-4 minute handicap with time trials.
BMC should send TJ to Giro instead of having both him and Porte aim for the Tour (although I do hope that TdF will have even more TTs than Giro)
Hugo Koblet said:Great ride today, he looked really strong. Pinot vs Aru vs Quintana looks like it could be a thing
At the Giro? Some good TTer might be in the mix as well. Will get 3-4 minute handicap with time trials.
BMC should send TJ to Giro instead of having both him and Porte aim for the Tour (although I do hope that TdF will have even more TTs than Giro)
I want to see Pinot in the Giro next year. This guy can climb and he is not bad at TTing. Give him a strong team and give him the right opportunities and he can do something really good (win!) at the Giro or Vuelta.
Definitely a super good result. The weather is perfect for him in lombardia. Same as in il giro
Great ride again by PInot.
3rd in Lombardia combined with winning the Queen stages in Romandie, Suisse and the Tour make this still a very good season for him
3rd in Lombardia combined with winning the Queen stages in Romandie, Suisse and the Tour make this still a very good season for him
French Championship in his backyard, Grand Colombier via Culoz, where he has a winning track record. It smells like some people want Pinot to forget about the Giro, aim at CdF-TdF instead.
http://www.cyclingquotes.com/news/pinot_aiming_for_podium_repeat/
It is safe to say that podium itself won't happen, unless one of the Big 3 crashes, but his goal about reaching as close as possible to the podium (probably Contador, Quintana, Froome in random order) is deliberate. It should IMO be all about stepping up from second tier (Aru/Valverde/Purito) to get as close to Contador, Quintana and Froomes level as possible.
It is safe to say that podium itself won't happen, unless one of the Big 3 crashes, but his goal about reaching as close as possible to the podium (probably Contador, Quintana, Froome in random order) is deliberate. It should IMO be all about stepping up from second tier (Aru/Valverde/Purito) to get as close to Contador, Quintana and Froomes level as possible.
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I have to disagree. I know that he wouldn't have been on the podium in 2014, if it wasn't for top contenders crashing, but he did beat Valverde who's IMO a slightly better GC rider than Purito. He was certainly with Majka the top 3 best climbers that year, and he was the only one who dropped Nibali that year (or as some claim; he stopped 'cause he wanted a bottle, and he didn't bother losing 3 seconds to Contador in Géradmer either) .
Furthermore his showing in the last part of this years Tour was pretty good, and he while was clearly being behind Quintana and Froome, he did stay with the Valverde/Contador group on La Toussuire.
I think that it is very close between Aru and Pinot (2 seconds between them in the one-day race Milano-Torino), and right now I think they are pretty much on the same level. They have only met in a GT once (Vuelta 2014 Aru ended 5th while Pinot DNF after riding the Tour), but that isn't indicative of their level.
SeriousSam said:
I have to disagree. I know that he wouldn't have been on the podium in 2014, if it wasn't for top contenders crashing, but he did beat Valverde who's IMO a slightly better GC rider than Purito. He was certainly with Majka the top 3 best climbers that year, and he was the only one who dropped Nibali that year (or as some claim; he stopped 'cause he wanted a bottle, and he didn't bother losing 3 seconds to Contador in Géradmer either) .
Furthermore his showing in the last part of this years Tour was pretty good, and he while was clearly being behind Quintana and Froome, he did stay with the Valverde/Contador group on La Toussuire.
I think that it is very close between Aru and Pinot (2 seconds between them in the one-day race Milano-Torino), and right now I think they are pretty much on the same level. They have only met in a GT once (Vuelta 2014 Aru ended 5th while Pinot DNF after riding the Tour), but that isn't indicative of their level.
Pinot is no where near Aru's level, he can climb well on his day but no where near the likes of Froome, Quitana or in form Contador; Aru on the other hand is just blow this lot. IMO the best Pinot can hope is a top 10 and a stage win like last year.
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