- Apr 16, 2009
- 17,600
- 6,854
- 28,180
Something is very wrong here. And I have the gut feeling that is not going get repaired nor is going to get better by staying on the race.
- Jan 4, 2020
- 6,327
- 7,737
- 16,180
- Jan 4, 2020
- 6,327
- 7,737
- 16,180
This is sad, looks like he can forget the Giro.
Maybe already plan for the Vuelta?
Maybe already plan for the Vuelta?
- Nov 6, 2020
- 964
- 1,251
- 7,180
They say he can't push for extended periods and has to take breaks before going hard again which seems to be supported by his strava as he was only 3 seconds slower than Pogacar in the final km.
- May 17, 2013
- 7,559
- 2,414
- 20,680
I'm getting very worried, hope that he is playing games, but that's unlikely knowing him. Finishing the Tour definitely was a bad idea. I'm dying here.
- Oct 2, 2020
- 2,486
- 4,513
- 12,180
It's not looking good, is it? Back issues can become chronic. A tough situation in a sport as relentless as cycling, especially grand-tour cycling.
- May 5, 2010
- 51,719
- 30,275
- 28,180
Team appears to have a "Could be worse, but could certainly also be better." view on things:
Benjamin Thomas in the break, Rudy Molard moves up in GC (equipecycliste-groupama-fdj.fr)
Though, judging from those articles, it seems like it really never was the plan that he should be the GC guy in T-A.
Benjamin Thomas in the break, Rudy Molard moves up in GC (equipecycliste-groupama-fdj.fr)
Though, judging from those articles, it seems like it really never was the plan that he should be the GC guy in T-A.
- Sep 29, 2013
- 2,066
- 1,833
- 14,680
There's a night and day difference between FDJ and Ineos approach if we compare Pinot and Bernal, who both had back issues.
I'm honestly sad about this. The team seems lost about what to do. Why would he be competing if he can't even handle long efforts? It's not like you need a race to find that problem.
I'm not optimistic at all about this year.
I'm honestly sad about this. The team seems lost about what to do. Why would he be competing if he can't even handle long efforts? It's not like you need a race to find that problem.
I'm not optimistic at all about this year.
- Nov 6, 2020
- 964
- 1,251
- 7,180
- Jan 31, 2016
- 3,611
- 6,035
- 19,180
It's particularly troubling if the foundation for his troubles is due to the position he's had as a developing, younger rider. Some trained-in back defects can't be fixed by surgery easily or at all and I'd suggest Bernal appears to be on that track. Only a long period of rest and physical therapy can straighten some hyper-developed conditions closer to normal. Training a new, appropriate posture which can take years and the pressure is always on results, NOW. It's always the risk when riders get early success and are pushed for results where proper weight training and position development would succeed for a longer career. It's really exciting to see all the new talent but you have to wonder what the risk will be to some of them.
I watched T-A all week and couldn't believe it when I saw his name on the TT finishers.
I didn't even know he was in the race!
I didn't even know he was in the race!
- May 5, 2010
- 51,719
- 30,275
- 28,180
- Nov 16, 2013
- 26,686
- 27,791
- 28,180
- Apr 30, 2011
- 47,181
- 29,829
- 28,180
I'm aware that different taxation means that you cannot compare it 1:1, but when did Pinot sign his current contract? Pretty nice wage, on par with Roglič.
Source: https://www.nieuwsblad.be/cnt/dmf20210318_97270665 (h/t @velofacts)
Source: https://www.nieuwsblad.be/cnt/dmf20210318_97270665 (h/t @velofacts)
- Jul 16, 2015
- 5,374
- 13,954
- 23,180
I'm aware that different taxation means that you cannot compare it 1:1, but when did Pinot sign his current contract? Pretty nice wage, on par with Roglič.
Source: https://www.nieuwsblad.be/cnt/dmf20210318_97270665 (h/t @velofacts)
That list is an horrific example financial mismanagement & teams living in the past. Pogacar, Alaphilippe & van Aert are worth their top 10 salary, whilst the rest? No. And the fact all those other names are ahead of Roglic is pretty shocking tbh.
Ineos must have money growing in their back garden (or a magic well) because Adam Yates is having a laugh on 2 million. And the less said about Froome & Israel, the better. Bardet at 2 million with DSM is also shocking considering his form over the past 24 months.
It used to be said a bike rider was paid based upon his present & future potential... but looking at this list of "big names" without any results for years, it's apparently no longer true.
- Nov 16, 2013
- 26,686
- 27,791
- 28,180
- Jul 16, 2015
- 5,374
- 13,954
- 23,180
By pretty much everyone with sense in the professional road cycling business for like... decades & decades? But hey, if you want to nitpick & be contrarian for contrarian sake, be my guest.
Overpaying aged former stars who haven't won diddly-squat in years was certainly never the norm.
That's just false. Riders', and in general athletes', salaries were and are based largely on what they accomplished before.
- Jul 16, 2015
- 5,374
- 13,954
- 23,180
And that's just false on your behalf.
What am I even reading? This stuff was common knowledge for a very long time. Cycling isn't (at least wasn't) football. Overpaid stars without results aren't (weren't) the norm in Europe.
- Jan 4, 2020
- 6,327
- 7,737
- 16,180
I suppose both is true: They like to say it's about present and future, because that would be the right way to do it from a sportive side. But then there are sponsors you need and they care about big names, so you spend a lot of money on big names.
Thomas is on a really good wage, but I guess his contract was done after his Tour win?
Wasn't Alaphilippe's contract done before the 19 Tour and the WC title? That's a pretty good contract for a DQS rider, as well.
Crowd favourites are definitely rewarded here, too, so Bardet and Pinot are explainable. Roglic looks a bit "underpaid".
Thomas is on a really good wage, but I guess his contract was done after his Tour win?
Wasn't Alaphilippe's contract done before the 19 Tour and the WC title? That's a pretty good contract for a DQS rider, as well.
Crowd favourites are definitely rewarded here, too, so Bardet and Pinot are explainable. Roglic looks a bit "underpaid".
- May 5, 2010
- 51,719
- 30,275
- 28,180
- Nov 16, 2013
- 26,686
- 27,791
- 28,180
No, it's the way it is. Maybe not the way it should be but you're simply not saying the truth.
- Apr 30, 2011
- 47,181
- 29,829
- 28,180
Riders sell brand value for their sponsors. It's not like the income of teams depend on results very much compared to what sponsors bring. Even if Valverde is dog *** atm, he is obviously still valuable to sponsors.
TRENDING THREADS
-
Teams & Riders The Remco Evenepoel is the next Eddy Merckx thread- Started by DNP-Old
- Replies: 36K
-
Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread- Started by Lequack
- Replies: 41K
-
Teams & Riders The Great Big Cycling Transfers, Extensions, and Rumours Thread
- Started by RedheadDane
- Replies: 13K
-
Il Lombardia 2025, monument, October 11- Started by Krzysztof_O
- Replies: 792
-
-
-
Teams & Riders Everybody needs a little bit of Roglstomp in their lives- Started by johnymax
- Replies: 23K
Facebook
Twitter
Instagram