another LOL for me ping pong is table tennis in englishsaganftw said:liar,thats table tennis
how do you know these things. What tests is there you used to come to that conclusion?c&cfan said:well.. i have serious doubts. the time when a cyclist was able to won classics, sprints and GTs is over. if eddy merckx was alive today, he would have to chose between being able to try to win some classics and a GT, or 2 GT etc. today it is impossible to win all the season long and all kinds of races. that time is over. in the new days, you have to be "specialized" if you wanna have hopes of win something.
that's another reason for a lot of people to say that contador is the best ever in stage races(even armstrong realizes that). better than merckx, armstrong, pantani, hinault, etc.
if contador try to race (for the win) the 3GT, he can't race anything else during the year. but he is the only one that can do that.
today's cycling is very diferent, much more tougher, with much more competition. they drag each other, they use a lot of strategies etc. a cyclist like merckx (evans for example) will only be able to win a "small" race here, a podium there, etc. but win something really big more than 5 times in a career?no.
it isn't impossible for contador. but it is almost impossible to happen.
isn't it stupid to talk about the best cyclist ever nowadays??merckx or hinault would never been able to win a couble classic against boonen, cancelara or musseuw. merckx or hinault would never been able to win a TT against cancellara etc. merckx and hinault would never been able to win a mountain stage against pantani contador etc. not to talk about sprints (cavendish petachi cipollini etc) or another classics (bettini rebellin boogerd valverde freire zabel etc)
let the poor guy first try to win the giro-tour .. he hasn't yet. I thought that was part of his program for next year. Last giro=tour winner in the same season was a long time agoEl Pistolero said:Well, if he can win the Giro/Tour double why not try the Vuelta as well?
No harm done if he wasn't able to win that one after winning the Giro/Tour...
I am not saying he couldn't , I don't know that. But I like to point out that winning Giro-Vuelta in the same season still means having many months of preparation in between the two races and the time to peek anew, because one is in the spring and the other in fall. Giro-tdf leaves less time but has been done. However more often than not we have seen that doing well at the giro doesn't necessarily means top placing at TDF. Of course there are so many variables (like the level of the competition at the TDF) to consider besides the time in between the two.c&cfan said:andy will play with you..
in one year, the guy won paris nice and other races. then he goes to the beach. then, without preparation and in no shape, he wins the giro. after that, the vuelta. yeah i believe that it isn't totally impossible for him.
Last giro/tour: Pantani 98, Indurain 92/93, Roche 87, Hinault 82/85Dedelou said:let the poor guy first try to win the giro-tour .. he hasn't yet. I thought that was part of his program for next year. Last giro=tour winner in the same season was a long time ago
when you explain a joke its not that funny anymorereyan12 said:another LOL for me ping pong is table tennis in english
absurd is saying that. you are not talking about LA or andy.saganftw said:when you explain a joke its not that funny anymore
back on topic
i thought riis is talking about 3 GT in a season but not with one rider (AC)
but ppl on the thread still keep talking about possibility of AC 3GT wins in a season -which is absurd imho
if you consider ullrich,beloki,zulle,kloden "medium" oposition i have really no argument herec&cfan said:some of them already tried.
but any sane person knows that it is extremely dificult. however it isn't impossible for AC to do that.
medium??kloden,beloki, ulrich (after 27), mayo, rumsas, basso (this one was better. however he was never a trully tour cyclist and he was out when he was becoming the strongest.)
you are talking about cyclist that had never won nothing. (ulrich after 27)
yeah. for sure it is below menchov, andy, frank,armstrong, best ever leipheimer, etc etc etc.
I just did it with some French talent and the poor guy (the world's best climber by a very large margin) was practically dead by the time the Vuelta ended. But he still won.Dekker_Tifosi said:Sure it is.
Already did that two times... in Pro cycling manager that is... 1x Contador and 1x some scouted French talent
A sign that it will never happen in real life
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