Tinkoff want Froome, Nibali & Quintana at Giro

[ILovecycling]

It is just too long to explain.

I like Contador but I thought it was only Armstrong and Froome's fans that get blinded by their favorite riders. They want to believe almost anything. Like if it was just a video game.

Don't want to get into details because I don't want to argue with anyone.

All 'hardcore fans' are the same. (in smth)

 

[jens_attacks]

it's a free world, of course they shouldn't ride the whole 3 or even 2. anyway alberto can do giro-tour double if healthy, end of story

 

[Jspear]

it's a free world, of course they shouldn't ride the whole 3 or even 2. anyway alberto can do giro-tour double if healthy, end of story

They shouldn't? Or they don't have to if they don't want to? Remember free world.

 

[sir fly]

it's a free world, of course they shouldn't ride the whole 3 or even 2. anyway alberto can do giro-tour double if healthy, end of story

I really hope we'll see if that's the case next year.
Fingers crossed for healthy Contador.

 

[Publicus]

Lots of defensive fan boys and girls in this thread. Of course Nibali and Froome, along with their team management, will set their schedule for next year. It doesn't change the fact that, at least optically speaking, by choosing not to go to the Giro, it will look like they are trying to avoid racing Contador on a level playing field. Choosing instead to take him on, only after he's raced (and hopefully won) the Giro.

All in a all, I do love what Oleg is trying to bring to cycling.

 

[djpbaltimore]

It doesn't change the fact that, at least optically speaking, by choosing not to go to the Giro, it will look like they are trying to avoid racing Contador on a level playing field.

By next spring, I predict this PR ruse will only be a distant memory. So I don't think SKY, Astana, or Movistar will have much to worry about perception-wise during the TDF.

Another thing that hasn't been mentioned is that Oleg's proposal favors the teams with a deep stable of superdoms because it would be hard for the lesser riders to maintain form over two GTs. Another advantage for a team like TS, especially if Kreuziger manages to ride next year.

 

[Publicus]

By next spring, I predict this PR ruse will only be a distant memory. So I don't think SKY, Astana, or Movistar will have much to worry about perception-wise during the TDF.

Another thing that hasn't been mentioned is that Oleg's proposal favors the teams with a deep stable of superdoms because it would be hard for the lesser riders to maintain form over two GTs. Another advantage for a team like TS, especially if Kreuziger manages to ride next year.

I predict you will be wrong. I think there is a method to Oleg's madness. We'll see how it plays out.

 

[SafeBet]

It doesn't change the fact that, at least optically speaking, by choosing not to go to the Giro, it will look like they are trying to avoid racing Contador on a level playing field.

Just as much as it looked like Contador and Froome were trying to avoid racing Nibali on a level playing field when he chose to race the Giro in 2013.

But of course this would require living in a non Contador-centric world, which I understand can be extremely difficult.

 

[inri2000]

Eh? Did you read the OP?

Sorry, I thought it was the OP's personal opinion since he didn't mention a source. I had no idea it was Martinellis words, at the moment I am shocked that Nibali is seemingly running away scared like this

 

[Publicus]

Just as much as it looked like Contador and Froome were trying to avoid racing Nibali on a level playing field when he chose to race the Giro in 2013.

But of course this would require living in a non Contador-centric world, which I understand can be extremely difficult.

I don't recall Nibali issuing a challenge to Contador and Froome in 2013, but it could because I live in a Contador-centric world apparently.

Do you have a link (or links) to his challenge and their responses?

 

[Parker]

Contador hasn't even been on the podium of the Tour since 2009 (or 2010 if you like). His best for Saxo/Tinkoff is 4th (and no stages). And nobody has ever won the Tour after a gap of five (or four) editions since their last win.

Maybe he (or rather Tinkov) should think about that before issuing challenges and talking about doubles.

 

[cineteq]

Contador hasn't even been on the podium of the Tour since 2009 (or 2010 if you like). His best for Saxo/Tinkoff is 4th (and no stages). And nobody has ever won the Tour after a gap of five (or four) editions since their last win.

Maybe he (or rather Tinkov) should think about that before issuing challenges and talking about doubles.

Good observation. Anyway, I'm all for saving road bike racing...and I repeat RACING! So I'm with Tinkov in trying to think out of the box, or just to start a debate.

 

[damian13ster]

Lots of defensive fan boys and girls in this thread. Of course Nibali and Froome, along with their team management, will set their schedule for next year. It doesn't change the fact that, at least optically speaking, by choosing not to go to the Giro, it will look like they are trying to avoid racing Contador on a level playing field. Choosing instead to take him on, only after he's raced (and hopefully won) the Giro.

All in a all, I do love what Oleg is trying to bring to cycling.

Meh, Froome or Nibali should just come out and say: I am doing Tour and Vuelta next year. If Contador and Nibali/Froome aren't there for both races, it means they are avoiding racing me on level field.

 

[mrhender]

Contador hasn't even been on the podium of the Tour since 2009 (or 2010 if you like). His best for Saxo/Tinkoff is 4th (and no stages). And nobody has ever won the Tour after a gap of five (or four) editions since their last win.

Maybe he (or rather Tinkov) should think about that before issuing challenges and talking about doubles.

Nice.. I like statistics.. But at some point they will meet their maker..
That could very well be Contador...

 

[mrhender]

Meh, Froome or Nibali should just come out and say: I am doing Tour and Vuelta next year. If Contador and Nibali/Froome aren't there for both races, it means they are avoiding racing me on level field.

They could do that. But a little to late don't you think?
TS-camp made the first move. A counter as you suggest, would not equalize or neutralize the significance of first move.. PR is king, and they do it very well at TS...

 

[The Hitch]

Just as much as it looked like Contador and Froome were trying to avoid racing Nibali on a level playing field when he chose to race the Giro in 2013.

But of course this would require living in a non Contador-centric world, which I understand can be extremely difficult.

Didn't contador announce he was going for the 2013 tour before Nibali said he would do the giro? In any case 2013.Nibali actually probably could beat 2013 contador.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Contador hasn't even been on the podium of the Tour since 2009 (or 2010 if you like). His best for Saxo/Tinkoff is 4th (and no stages). And nobody has ever won the Tour after a gap of five (or four) editions since their last win.

Maybe he (or rather Tinkov) should think about that before issuing challenges and talking about doubles.

Yes he will be the rider with the biggest edition gap between two wins

 

[LaFlorecita]

Meh, Froome or Nibali should just come out and say: I am doing Tour and Vuelta next year. If Contador and Nibali/Froome aren't there for both races, it means they are avoiding racing me on level field.

It would not be level if Contador rode the Giro beforehand

 

[damian13ster]

It would not be level if Contador rode the Giro beforehand

Well then, he is free to adjust his schedule......
One thing I dont get is why would two most recent Tour de France winners make their schedules based on some interview from the boss of one of the riders who want to take the TdF title.....
They don`t have to, and disregarding Oleg`s words won`t make them cowards, afraid of Contador or whatever delusional fans want to call them. It just means they are not a puppets manipulated by other team`s owner.

Don`t believe that Nibali or Froome care how COntador fanboys will react to that. The rider who wins the Tour will still get most publicity anyway.

 

[Cimber]

Well then, he is free to adjust his schedule......
One thing I dont get is why would two most recent Tour de France winners make their schedules based on some interview from the boss of one of the riders who want to take the TdF title.....
They don`t have to, and disregarding Oleg`s words won`t make them cowards, afraid of Contador or whatever delusional fans want to call them. It just means they are not a puppets manipulated by other team`s owner.

Don`t believe that Nibali or Froome care how COntador fanboys will react to that. The rider who wins the Tour will still get most publicity anyway.

No they dont have to. But it would be something really epic and historical if all the biggest guns decided to do all the 3 GTs

 

[Pricey_sky]

Hasn't Froome already said since before the Vuelta his aim is to get back to top form ready for next years Tour? Therefore this whole argument revolving around Tinkoff PR and getting riders to do the Giro is null and void. Certainly on Froome's part anyway, over to you Nibali...

 

[Cimber]

Hasn't Froome already said since before the Vuelta his aim is to get back to top form ready for next years Tour? Therefore this whole argument revolving around Tinkoff PR and getting riders to do the Giro is null and void. Certainly on Froome's part anyway, over to you Nibali...

Well there is a very slim possibility that he might change his mind in order to take part in an epic, historical event. But Brailsford, the control-freak, would never allow it in any case I reckon.

 

[Pricey_sky]

Well there is a very slim possibility that he might change his mind in order to take part in an epic, historical event. But Brailsford, the control-freak, would never allow it in any case I reckon.

I don't think it even comes down to DB in this case, Froome has said he wants to ride the Tour for several years and I suppose he is perfectly entitled to do that with what he's achieved so far. I'd like him to target Giro/Vuelta one year but I don't think it will be for a few years yet.

Wil be interesting to see what Quintana does, I'm sure he has said he wants to ride the Tour next year but we will see.

 

[Cimber]

I don't think it even comes down to DB in this case, Froome has said he wants to ride the Tour for several years and I suppose he is perfectly entitled to do that with what he's achieved so far. I'd like him to target Giro/Vuelta one year but I don't think it will be for a few years yet.

Wil be interesting to see what Quintana does, I'm sure he has said he wants to ride the Tour next year but we will see.

Of course he is entitled to do it the way he would. That doesnt mean that it wouldnt be awesome if all the big guns decidede to do all the 3 big ones just one year.

 

[Pricey_sky]

Of course he is entitled to do it the way he would. That doesnt mean that it wouldnt be awesome if all the big guns decidede to do all the 3 big ones just one year.

Yes I agree it would be incredible, I bet one of the second tier GC guys would start planning to be in peak form for the Vuelta to have the best chance of capitalising on tiredness.