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I don't think Pogacar sleeps better when he sees MVDP dropping Del Toro at a section of 9%, and when Del Toro catches up able to stay with him and eventually finishing Del Toro in a sprint at sections of average 8% when he weighs 10kg more

Duh..
MVDP had a gap on Del Toro thanks to the crash and Del Toro still caught him.
MVDP wasn't too impressive. That means nothing for Cipressaa and Poggio though.
 
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Van Aert getting stronger every day...he should be back on top soon to at least challenge MVP for some sprints
If strength isn't the issue (and that will always be an issue against MVDP), positioning when things get dicy is what he's lost. When there's a fight for position, he pulls the ripcord, and gets out of danger.
 
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I don't think Pogacar sleeps better when he sees MVDP dropping Del Toro at a section of 9%, and when Del Toro catches up able to stay with him and eventually finishing Del Toro in a sprint at sections of average 8% when he weighs 10kg more

By dropping Del Toro you mean Jorgenson's crash? Del Toro caught MVP afterwards and lead the whole finale (losing some energy). It was a very good win by MVP anyway.
 
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Sure, but unnecessary to post such a rant when my post was an obvious joke when we literally saw him pulling and chasing in the group behind. As many times before.

How you felt the need to go on rant that no one should mention them together after years of rivarly, because it has obivously become a bit loopsided (hence my joke) in later years, still escapes me.

In many ways, they will always be mentioned and compared to each other with their history. Again, hence my post.
It wasn't a "rant." It was an observation. I think the tone you read, was not the tone I wrote.
 
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I can't wait for Horner's take putting Wout and Rogla as page 1 riders still.
He still has Roglic as number 2 in the world...
he did say specifically 'based on last years results' tho regarding Primoz #2 in yesterday's vid
 
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What choice did he have? He was pulling all in for GC. Pellizzari looks like he pulled the "Roglic" card while MVDP was just thinking about the stage win.
If you know another person is there for the stage win, make him ride for it. Moreover, MVDP is a rider that contributes. Del Toro rolled out the red carpet, even though he was probably the one with the strongest legs.

No, that wasn't smart riding.
 
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It was more the point Wout and MVDP being in the same sentence anymore, isn't really a thing. His days of being in mentioned in relation to MVDP are over.
Just re-watch the finale of RVV last year. WvA isn't done. He's missing the snap in the last 1.5 years and I think crashing twice in 2024 accelerated his demise, but he's still a pretty decent rider.
 
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Wow...

Super-impressive from Del Toro after doing all that work to still almost win it
Del Toro is smart enough to realize that if he lets MVDP ride the front on what was almost entirely uphill, he loses any GC gains he worked for.
 
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Great finale! Battle of classics specialists and punchy climbers. Congrats to Van der Poel on a nice win. Also congrats to Del Toro and Pelizzari. Del Toro did almost all the work in the finale to gain in the GC but it maybe cost him the stage.
I see one (1) classics specialist in the top 30. Mostly climbers, punchy and diesels, in the remaining sposts.

Maybe 2 if you count Sheffield.

Nearly everyone under 70 kg.
 
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Duh..
MVDP had a gap on Del Toro thanks to the crash and Del Toro still caught him.
MVDP wasn't too impressive. That means nothing for Cipressaa and Poggio though.
Del Toro and Pellizari caught MVDP on a long climb. I don't see what's so wild about that.
 
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Del Toro is smart enough to realize that if he lets MVDP ride the front on what was almost entirely uphill, he loses any GC gains he worked for.
And MvdP is smart enough to know that had he not gained an advantage on Del Toro, because Jorgensen fell in front of him, his a$$ was had.
 

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