Tirreno - Adriatico Stage 6, P.S.Elpidio -> P.S.Elpidio, 209 kms (11/03/2013)

[Eshnar]

and your arguments for naming guys like atapuma a better climber then nibali are?

must be his epic win on Pordoi, beating Nibali who DNS the entire race

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

and your arguments for naming guys like atapuma a better climber then nibali are?

see passo pordoi in trentino last year, that was of the highest climbing calibre, you can't denie it. never seen nibali do anything like that

 

[Eshnar]

See? Told ya!

 

[Parrulo]

see passo pordoi in trentino last year, that was of the highest climbing calibre, you can't denie it. never seen nibali do anything like that

how exactly do you know that? do you got numbers or something like that? if i remember that stage correctly the group stayed together until pozzovivo hit the front and rode almost every off his wheel and atapuma only jumped him on the last 100 meters. do you call that a huge climbing performance?

See? Told ya!

lol, it just gets harder and harder to take ryo seriously

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

how exactly do you know that? do you got numbers or something like that? if i remember that stage correctly the group stayed together until pozzovivo hit the front and rode almost every off his wheel and atapuma only jumped him on the last 100 meters. do you call that a huge climbing performance?




lol, it just gets harder and harder to take ryo seriously

he beat pozzovivo(in absolute topshape) with much ease, yes I call that world class, not only that but more examples from colombia, they may be meaningless to you, but then ask another rider and I can tell you why.

 

[Parrulo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=nmy6COlP3iQ#t=2824s

so impressive to wheel suck some1 and then outsprinting him. . . . god forgive what you would say about gesink if he ever did something like that. . .

oh ya the legendary performances in colombia. . .

you want more names? ok no need to close that video, szmyds gets dropped there pretty easily by pozzovivo yet you say he is still better then nibali

i wonder if the liquigas management is run by idiots since they had him working for nibali and basso in 2010/2011. . . they should have just asked the mighty ryo.

btw szmyd = useless over the last 2 seasons, trentino last year is his only good performance since the 2010 dauphine

 

[burning]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=nmy6COlP3iQ#t=2824s

so impressive to wheel suck some1 and then outsprinting him. . . . god forgive what you would say about gesink if he ever did something like that. . .

oh ya the legendary performances in colombia. . .

you want more names? ok no need to close that video, szmyds gets dropped there pretty easily by pozzovivo yet you say he is still better then nibali

i wonder if the liquigas management is run by idiots since they had him working for nibali and basso in 2010/2011. . . they should have just asked the mighty ryo.

btw szmyd = useless over the last 2 seasons, trentino last year is his only good performance since the 2010 dauphine

Rujanito is there as well

 

[SafeBet]

I don't wanna argue this again but I remember doing some researches last year which showed pozzovivo hasn't dropped nibali in a mtf in probably 3 years. I'm not completely sure though so ill check back tomorrow.

 

[Angliru]

The coverage was terrible. We didn't even get to see Nibali's winning move at the top of the penultimate climb.

As you say Froome was only 10 metres or so behind Contador at the top and he had Henao just ahead of him. They obviously didn't descend very well because by the start of the last climb they were well behind the Contador/Purito group.

It has to be said though that Froome just didn't have good enough legs today. He clearly isn't that good on short steep climbs (not explosive) and in bad weather. Those two factors probably won't cause him too many problems at the Tour but the most important thing to consider based on today is how good is Froome's recovery? Was it just the weather/short steep climbs that caused him to struggle or is there a bigger issue with his recovery after several hard days of racing? Of course it seems unlikely given what we've seen from him at the 2011 Vuelta and the 2012 Tour. I'm interested to see how he does in the TT tomorrow, that will answer the question. The race of truth!

Froome was really never challenged at the 2012 Tour and the level of competition at the Vuelta wasn't the same as what will be at the Tour or even what was at T-A. While Cobo was impressive at that Vuelta, is he really in the same league on a consistent basis with Contador, Evans, Nibali and Purito?

 

[Angliru]

he's always injured and sick, but on a good day he can beat almost anyone

1 Daniel Martin (Irl) Team Garmin-Cervelo 4:52:14
2 Bauke Mollema (Ned) Rabobank Cycling Team
3 Juan Jose Cobo Acebo (Spa) Geox-TMC 0:00:03
4 Bradley Wiggins (GBr) Sky Procycling 0:00:04
5 Christopher Froome (GBr) Sky Procycling 0:00:07
6 Vincenzo Nibali (Ita) Liquigas-Cannondale 0:00:11
7 Rein Taaramae (Est) Cofidis, Le Credit En Ligne 0:00:12
8 Denis Menchov (Rus) Geox-TMC
9 Haimar Zubeldia Agirre (Spa) Team RadioShack
10 Fredrik Kessiakoff (Swe) Pro Team Astana

1 Alberto Contador Velasco (Spa) Saxo Bank Sungard 4:45:31
2 Michele Scarponi (Ita) Lampre - ISD 0:00:23
3 Levi Leipheimer (USA) Team RadioShack
4 Daniel Martin (Irl) Team Garmin-Cervelo 0:00:35
5 Christopher Horner (USA) Team RadioShack
6 Alex Cano Ardila (Col) Colombia Es Pasion - Cafe De Colombia
7 Ivan Basso (Ita) Liquigas-Cannondale 0:00:38
8 Rigoberto Uran Uran (Col) Sky Procycling
9 Xavier Tondo Volpini (Spa) Movistar Team
10 Cadel Evans (Aus) BMC Racing Team 0:00:50

It would be nice to know from what events these results are.

 

[Netserk]

It would be nice to know from what events these results are.

First is Vuelta '11
Second I believe is Catalunya '11

 

[trevim]

It would be nice to know from what events these results are.

The first one is the stage Daniel Martin won in the Vuelta 2011, La Manzaneda I believe. The second is the stage to Arcalis on Vuelta a Catalunya 2011.
[Netserk is right ]

 

[Angliru]

First is Vuelta '11
Second I believe is Catalunya '11

Thanks, I thought the second might be Catalunya too.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=nmy6COlP3iQ#t=2824s

so impressive to wheel suck some1 and then outsprinting him. . . . god forgive what you would say about gesink if he ever did something like that. . .

oh ya the legendary performances in colombia. . .

you want more names? ok no need to close that video, szmyds gets dropped there pretty easily by pozzovivo yet you say he is still better then nibali

i wonder if the liquigas management is run by idiots since they had him working for nibali and basso in 2010/2011. . . they should have just asked the mighty ryo.

btw szmyd = useless over the last 2 seasons, trentino last year is his only good performance since the 2010 dauphine

why don't you learn how to read? I'm talking climbers not stageracers of course liqiuihas have szmyd work for nibali, nibali is a much better gc rider, szmnyd is the better climber though

and atapuma attacked in the final km and blew away from everyone and dare I say, completely out of shape as well, see the day before on that steep mountain where he finished 15th, none of the coldeportes were in good shape at any time last season. and like I said I base assumptions of atapuma also of colombia, that you don';t follow. henao lucky to finish top 20 on linea, 5th in rcn, in europe he finishes top 10 giro with ease and despite working. and rcn is pure climbers race, that says enough

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

It would be nice to know from what events these results are.

it says more than enough that you dont know. they are from the vuelta and volta catalunya

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Thanks, I thought the second might be Catalunya too.

the 2nd is catalunya...

 

[trevim]

“I think that is probably my record for the steepest road I've ever ridden a bike up, or certainly the steepest road I've ever raced a bike up,” Farrar said. “In addition to the three times up the crazy, super-steep 30 per cent climb, there were several other climbs on that circuit that were up in the 20s, so it was a tough day for sure. To be honest, I think it would make an awesome one-day race.”

Farrar just earned some points in my book.

 

[phanatic]

“I think that is probably my record for the steepest road I've ever ridden a bike up, or certainly the steepest road I've ever raced a bike up,” Farrar said. “In addition to the three times up the crazy, super-steep 30 per cent climb, there were several other climbs on that circuit that were up in the 20s, so it was a tough day for sure. To be honest, I think it would make an awesome one-day race.”

Farrar just earned some points in my book.

I think he means a "one-day" race.

 

[Angliru]

it says more than enough that you dont know. they are from the vuelta and volta catalunya

Forgive me for not sharing in the wealth of cycling knowledge that you possess.
It must be quite trying for you to be among those that aren't up to your level
of cycling intellect. We are humbled in your presence.

 

[trevim]

I think he means a "one-day" race.

Still better than the ones that complained to Acquarone and Acquarone himself who seems to give too much credit to what the riders say or do.