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TOC stage 3: San Francisco - Santa Cruz, 182.9 km

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SpartacusRox said:
I think it was just you. But more concerning for me was the way that Schlecklet went backwards on that climb. He is supposed to be the second best climber in the world. 6 weeks out from tdf and he has guys who aren't even climbers riding away from him.

Guys on here have been going on about Armstrongs form but he is showing more form than a lot of guys based on todays stage.

How clueless are you?

When was the last time Andy Schleck showed form in a stage race, prior to the TdF?

Sixth in a stage to Verbier in the 2008 Tour de Suisse, finishing behind esteem climbers Sergei Ivanov and Stijn Devolder.

I can't find another example of Andy Schleck showing scintillating pre-TdF stage race form. Look how mediocre he was in Switzerland last year, two weeks out from the TdF. My memory is foggy, did he end up beating Armstrong that year?

Granted, aside from the race immediately prior to the TdF (Dauphine, Suisse), the same could be said about Lance Armstrong - but that's not the point you're trying to make.

Why don't these banned trolls at least try and sound like they are a tiny bit knowledgeable?
 
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The ToC is the post-classics 'Amstel Curacao Race'. The only thing missing is amateurs and fans signing up to ride with the pros!

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Bala Verde said:
The ToC is the post-classics 'Amstel Curacao Race'. The only thing missing is amateurs and fans signing up to ride with the pros!

Agreed.

The ToC is like a post Tour criterium. The winner is pre-agreed and the plays during the race are pre-arranged. Saxo are more than happy to play along as they have taken their payment to participate and play along. Of course you want Levi to win and we want to see Lance shutting down the attacks but its all show and only 10% of this field is actually racing. I don’t have a problem with this its all good fun. But no one should use the ToC as a barometer for anything.
 
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Agreed.

The ToC is like a post Tour criterium. The winner is pre-agreed and the plays during the race are pre-arranged. Saxo are more than happy to play along as they have taken their payment to participate and play along. Of course you want Levi to win and we want to see Lance shutting down the attacks but its all show and only 10% of this field is actually racing. I don’t have a problem with this its all good fun. But no one should use the ToC as a barometer for anything.

if you where to substitute the word ToC with wrestlemania i think youve hit the nail on the head.
 

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TeamSkyFans said:
if you where to substitute the word ToC with wrestlemania i think youve hit the nail on the head.

Watch Sagan kick it up this year. If the ToC was flat and easy why were riders going down all over the place in the first few days. Euro pros.

I could have hit 70MPH on some descents easy yesterday.

You call that a post-tour crit. OK Bob, pass me the dewers.
 
flicker said:
Watch Sagan kick it up this year. If the ToC was flat and easy why were riders going down all over the place in the first few days. Euro pros.

I could have hit 70MPH on some descents easy yesterday.

You call that a post-tour crit. OK Bob, pass me the dewers.

Stage 3 was a very good parcours IMHO, the problem was not the course it was that the majority of the peloton clearly did not want to race it hard.

This race was better in Februrary because then you had more guys willing to show up and hit it hard for some good early season training. Right now there is a lull in most of their schedules and they are looking to take it a little easy prior to pre-Tour ramp-up at the Dauphine and/or Tour de Suisse.
 

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BikeCentric said:
Stage 3 was a very good parcours IMHO, the problem was not the course it was that the majority of the peloton clearly did not want to race it hard.

This race was better in Februrary because then you had more guys willing to show up and hit it hard for some good early season training. Right now there is a lull in most of their schedules and they are looking to take it a little easy prior to pre-Tour ramp-up at the Dauphine and/or Tour de Suisse.

Yeah I guess Peter Sagan Mick Rogers, Hausler ,wimpheimer and Dave Z coasted into Santa Cruz on a blue cloud of Cannabis yesterday.
 
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flicker said:
Still no excuse for Andys' salad tossing yesterday. Guy looked like magnets were holding him back on the climb yesterday.

His secret downtube electric motor wasn't working. Or his motivation. Bikecentric was right: only 20 riders were interested on that stage. Glad to see Will Routley getting some play as he wreaked some havoc in the NW last season.
 

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I saw Lance riding up Bonny Doon and dropping to the back of the bunch. He turned around to the motrcycle camara and gave the camara a smug look,
Telling.