Tom 'Pidders' Pidcock

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Well Santa Cruz have no reason to sell one since they're owned by the same group that has Cervelo, Focus, and now also Cannondale and GT.
The bike market doesn't work like that. Merida own half of Specalized, doesn't mean both don't make road and mtb bikes even in the same factory lol! Dorel owning Cannondale, Mongoose & Schwin didn't mean Cannondale and Schwinn don't make road and mtb together. It's about market share, not market overlap as to how many bikes you can sell.
 
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I've always found it interesting that MTB doesn't really mean much to some of the Italian manufacturers; Pinarello, Colnago, Campagnolo. they've dabbled, but it's not really worked out. They're all very definite road race manufacturers, that's what their history is based on. MTB is a very different sport/culture - maybe they don't 'get it'.

Saying that, whilst not MTB, the Ekar gravel groupset has been a massive success.
 
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According to the article on CN it is stomach problems that is troubling him.

Doesnt seem like they know why he is having problems or found a solution.

Not good. His classics campaign seems very much in doubt. The weeks will go by pretty fast. Hope they can find what it is and he can finish the season strong.
 
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Sounds like he might be experiencing some changes to his nervous system as it adapts from the shorter mtb & cx training to much longer training for road ontop of the covid and gastro bugs he's had this season already. When the nervous system changes bloodflow from the stomach it's a double-whammy, you can't digest enough calories to be competitive and you're in pain as there isn't blood going to the stomach needing to digest. Not an issue in cx & mtb so much as you pretty much store all the required energy in your body before exercise begins, in a several hour road race, it's a totally different digestive scenario. I've been there, it's pretty grim and frustrating.
 
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Sep 2, 2011
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So according to VN and CN he signs a new five-year-deal with Ineos. Not really a surprise, is it.. Didn‘t believe the rumours (Trek?) anyway.

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Zero surprises here. Could be the face of British cycling for a long time.
Besides, Ineos is putting together a very promising team for the Classics, with Turner, Sheffield, Narvaez, Hayter and Tulett.
 
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So according to VN and CN he signs a new five-year-deal with Ineos. Not really a surprise, is it.. Didn‘t believe the rumours (Trek?) anyway.

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No, I don't think it's a surprise. I think it's possible that other manufacturers were interested in him, but were the teams they sponsor? Would Trek-Segafredo, BORA/QuickStep, etc really want him going off doing MTB, or CX? Maybe, maybe not.
 
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Zero surprises here. Could be the face of British cycling for a long time.
Besides, Ineos is putting together a very promising team for the Classics, with Turner, Sheffield, Narvaez, Hayter and Tulett.
I think there's a certain comfort level on a British team for him, even if I'm not positive it's the best fit. He seems like a guy who marches to his own beat sometimes.
 
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Zero surprises here. Could be the face of British cycling for a long time.
Besides, Ineos is putting together a very promising team for the Classics, with Turner, Sheffield, Narvaez, Hayter and Tulett.
I was actually thinking about this last night. They have some well paid GC riders on expiring contracts. Will they replace these with classics specialists to create a top classics team with Pidcock as their capain? Actually hope that will happen instead of their endless signings of GC contenders and domestiques for GTs.
 
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Zero surprises here. Could be the face of British cycling for a long time.
Besides, Ineos is putting together a very promising team for the Classics, with Turner, Sheffield, Narvaez, Hayter and Tulett.

Agree. Pidcock completely deserves this new, long, certainly well-paid new contract.

In recent times, I numerous times thought about what a strong rider he (already) is. I sometimes ask myself where he does get his strength from. 58 kgs of pure power. He has the power, the endurance of WVA and MVDP, and this aggressive racing spirit. He‘s a pleasure to watch… :)
 
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I was actually thinking about this last night. They have some well paid GC riders on expiring contracts. Will they replace these with classics specialists to create a top classics team with Pidcock as their capain? Actually hope that will happen instead of their endless signings of GC contenders and domestiques for GTs.

Pidders won the baby giro, I'm sure the plan is for him to do what he's good at for now while he was juggling disciplines before committing more heavily to becoming a GT contender himself later.
 
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Pidders won the baby giro, I'm sure the plan is for him to do what he's good at for now while he was juggling disciplines before committing more heavily to becoming a GT contender himself later.
We'll see. I hope he rather will prioritize to be a top classics rider at least for the next 5 years or so. Perhaps longer.
 
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We'll see. I hope he rather will prioritize to be a top classics rider at least for the next 5 years or so. Perhaps longer.
5 years is a very long time.
I'm sure Ineos (and Pidcock himself) will want to test his recovery in stage races earlier.
 
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5 years is a very long time.
I'm sure Ineos (and Pidcock himself) will want to test his recovery in stage races earlier.
Of course. But I hope his main priority will remain one day races and the one week races that is easily combines with the classcis. Given Pidcocks versaility, he will be competitive in a bunch of races the coming years. It would be one thing if he was a contender in the hilly classics in addition to Grand Tours, but when he also can ride cobbles like he does, it's something else. Then I hope that he stays a classics rider.
 
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Pidcock looked a little too thin to challenge for the Flanders win. Most to the top finishers look to have a little more body fat than he is carrying right now. It's has to be hard to keep your energy stores up for this particularly long and hard race if you are extremely lean.
 
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He looked fine on the cobbled climbs, until the last 50K. Which is what you'd expect from a rider who only just returned to racing last weekend. I'm surprised he lasted as long as he did. He'll be a bit better again at Amstel. Hopefully one fortuitous consequence of his illness is that he'll be peaking for the Ardennes.
 
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The best races for Pidcock are still Amstel and Strade IMO.

All the races in between Flanders and Liege.
 
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Last year he was never a factor in the cobble classics apart from maybe Kuurne.
Looks better in 2022 despite his health struggles, but yeah the power hills with cobbles don't exactly look like his cup of tea.
Like Bettini
 
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The best races for Pidcock are still Amstel and Strade IMO.

All the races in between Flanders and Liege.
A rider that excels in Strade and Amstel will also usually be a contender in RVV, E3, etc., I think Pidcock with an optimal preperation would be a contender for Strade, E3, RVV and Amstel. The bigger question is how good he would be for PR or LBL?
 
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I think he's much better suited for LBL than RVV.
Last year he was very strong in Strade Bianche, Brabantse Pijl, Amstel and even FW so I must assume his shape was pretty good from the get go and yet he struggled in the longest and hardest cobbled races like RVV and E3.
I think he can improve obviously, but he's not naturally built for them.
 
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He looked fine on the cobbled climbs, until the last 50K. Which is what you'd expect from a rider who only just returned to racing last weekend. I'm surprised he lasted as long as he did. He'll be a bit better again at Amstel. Hopefully one fortuitous consequence of his illness is that he'll be peaking for the Ardennes.

Yes, I think he looked okay the other day in Dwars - but the extra 70km was likely to be a factor, after his illness. And so it proved......hopefully it's more good training for other races.
 
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I saw comments about TP doing something stupid today, but missed that part of the live action ... what did he do (or not do)?
 
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I saw comments about TP doing something stupid today, but missed that part of the live action ... what did he do (or not do)?
He attacked once while Kwiato was solo at the front, but eventually that hasn't changed anything and apart from that he was behaving like a decent teammate.
 
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He attacked once while Kwiato was solo at the front, but eventually that hasn't changed anything and apart from that he was behaving like a decent teammate.
OK ... it sounded like the opposite, but perhaps just one mistake. Was it a big attack or did he reign it in quick?