Tom 'Pidders' Pidcock

[Peyroteo94]

Nothing says "man of the spring" like 3rd at ruta del sol, 2nd at Strade, 6th at Tirreno and 38th at omloop.

But i kinda agree actually

His shape is probably the best he ever had. Don't know if he can maintain this level until LBL but in MSR, he is probably showing a great level.

 

[Berniece]

His shape is probably the best he ever had. Don't know if he can maintain this level until LBL but in MSR, he is probably showing a great level.

They are planning to ride a proper Giro, so I don't think they want to sustain this level

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

Nothing says "man of the spring" like 3rd at ruta del sol, 2nd at Strade, 6th at Tirreno and 38th at omloop.

But i kinda agree actually

Well, he is second on the year's CQ score, but behind Ayuso, and just ahead of Pogacar. (same 1-2-3 on UCI rankings, and Pidcock top on PCS points scale)

 

[Strawberry_Jams]

really should do Milano-Torino on wednesday. Not the best field in regards to teams, so a real opportunity to get a win. I'm not sure it would have much of an effect for saturday, but the team probably might think otherwise.

 

[Strawberry_Jams]

got held up right at the point of the crash. would have been great to see if he was positioned where Gregoire was

 

[Pozzovivo]

got held up right at the point of the crash. would have been great to see if he was positioned where Gregoire was

Price to pay when he choose to ride for a small team perhaps? Ineos were positioned well.

 

[kingjr]

Price to pay when he choose to ride for a small team perhaps? Ineos were positioned well.

He was pretty much exactly in 30th position at the bottom of the climb, the Cofidis rider who crashed was right in front of him. Pogacar was around 40th, incidentally. It's a shame really, I think he could have stayed with Pogacar with his Strade legs.

 

[Arvid Falk]

Maybe he went to deep in T-A? Didn't seem to have super legs.

 

[Peyroteo94]

He is too good. Probably will fade in one month.

 

[Arvid Falk]

Pidders will take a break now and will be back inBrabantse Pijl and the Ardennes classics. Think he will do well in them, seems to be on a higher level this year. But he will be up against Remco in Brabantse and Remco/Pog in the Ardennes. So it will be really tough to get a win.

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[Arvid Falk]

The positioning battle into the Cipressa. Although no-one would've predicted it, there was a small crash at the bottom and a few riders were stuck behind it as well. Pidcock was one, and with a fall costing at least some 10 seconds at such a key point where UAE Team Emirates - XRG decided to go all-out, it was impossible to get back to the front of the peloton in time for Tadej Pogacar's expected attack.

"289 km of racing with space for a few mistakes. Today, we saw ourselves on the other side of luck at the foot of Cipressa, with a small crash involving Tom Pidcock before attacks kicked off, we were on the back foot," the team wrote on social media.

Tom Pidcock experiences hellish bad luck day at Milano-Sanremo

Tom Pidcock doesn't have in Milano-Sanremo a perfectly suited race, but the Q36.5 Pro Cycling Team rider still had a decent chance of finishing in the first positions taking into consideration his cur...

cyclinguptodate.com

 

[Netserk]

He was pretty much exactly in 30th position at the bottom of the climb, the Cofidis rider who crashed was right in front of him. Pogacar was around 40th, incidentally. It's a shame really, I think he could have stayed with Pogacar with his Strade legs.

Yep.

If I had to guess on the order entering Cipressa (the blue jerseys are hard to tell apart):

1. Marcellusi
2. Honore
3. Laurence
4. Ganna
5. Philipsen
6. Albanese
7. Hermans
8. -Astana (Ballerini?)
9. Gregoire
10. -Ag2r
11. Van der Poel
12. -EF (Powless?)
13. -Visma (Kooij?)
14. Trentin (EDIT: It was in fact him who pulled off in front of Pluimers and made a gap which Gregoire jumped across with Van Gils on his wheel, the latter had to let go again after the corner)
15. Wellens
16. Sweeny
17. Pluimers
18. Campenaerts
19. -Israel
20. -Astana
21. -Jayco (Bling?)
22. -Astana
23. -Israel
24. -Jayco
25. -Visma (Tulett?)
26. Pedersen
27. -Cofidis, crash
28. -Israel
29. APP, crash
30. Kirsch
31. Pidcock
32. -RedBull
33. -Israel
34. -Bahrain
35. -EF
36. -Tudor (Alaphilippe?)
37. -Intermarche
38. -RedBull
39. -Q36.5
40. -Visma
41. -Lotto
42. Pogi
43. -Ag2r
44. -Visma
45. -RedBull
46. Aranburu
47. -(B)DSM
48. -Ag2r
49. -Vini Fantini
50. -Lidl-Trek
51. Narváez
52. -Bahrain
53. -Bahrain
54. -QS
55. -Uno-X
56. -Intermarche
57. -(B)DSM
58. -Alpecin
59. -Bahrain
60. -UAE
61. -Visma
62. -Lidl-Trek
63. -Ag2r
64. -Lotto
65. -Intermarche
66. -RedBull
67. -FdJ
68. -Uno-X
69. -Arkea
70. -Lidl-Trek
71. Geniets

 

[Ripper]

I strongly suspect Tom would not have been able to keep up with the repeated accelerations, crash or no.

I know I like to give him a hard time about his road racing career, but I honestly have not seen Pidcock ride this well in a very long time. He's trained well over the winter and is much more focused, and perhaps more mature

 

[Strawberry_Jams]

so...

Vuelta a Andalucia
Omloop Het Nieuwsblad

Strade Bianche
Tirreno-Adriatico
Milan-San Remo

Brabantse Pijl
Amstel Gold Race
La Flèche Wallonne
Liège-Bastogne-Liège

quite a light schedule considering, thought he might have done Jaen considering he's there a couple of days later. No cobbles after Omloop, relatively the same as last year.
Probably indicates the team have been told they are doing the Giro.

???
Giro
British Road Champs? (not at Ineos/TdF anymore helps this)
MTB Summer (although really doesn't fit with worlds being during Vuelta which has been talked about)
Dates available:
Val di Sole June 22
Andorra July 13

Vuelta GC

Italian Classics

Wildcard for Giro and Vuelta now. Will apparently go for stages at the giro and the talk from Bogaerts was to go for GC at the Vuelta before they got the widcard.

The MTB Worlds are at the same time. I assume they would have gone with the MTB if they didn't get the wildcard but now they have, I suspect the decision has been made for them. So no battle with MvdP.

 

[Potomac]

"Man of the Spring" candidates.

Choose from Pidcock and PCS List of World Tour wins so far this year

#	Rider	Total	One day	TTs	Stages	GCs
1	MERLIER Tim	4	-	-	4	-
2	MILAN Jonathan	4	-	-	4	-
3	POGAČAR Tadej	4	1	-	2	1
4	AYUSO Juan	3	-	-	2	1
5	ROGLIČ Primož	3	-	-	2	1
6	WELSFORD Sam	3	-	-	3	-
7	BRENNAN Matthew	2	-	-	2	-
8	NARVÁEZ Jhonatan	2	-	-	1	1
9	VAN DER POEL Mathieu	2	2	-	-	-
10	PEDERSEN Mads	2	1	-	1	-
11	COQUARD Bryan	1	-	-	1	-
12	POWLESS Neilson	1	1	-	-	-
13	TARLING Joshua	1	-	1	-	-
14	MARTINEZ Lenny	1	-	-	1	-
15	ROMO Javier	1	-	-	1	-
16	SHEFFIELD Magnus	1	-	-	1	-
17	DVERSNES Fredrik	1	-	-	1	-
18	KOOIJ Olav	1	-	-	1	-
19	SIMMONS Quinn	1	-	-	1	-
20	WÆRENSKJOLD Søren	1	1	-	-	-
21	VERNON Ethan	1	-	-	1	-
22	SCHMID Mauro	1	1	-	-	-
23	JORGENSON Matteo	1	-	-	-	1
24	ALMEIDA João	1	-	-	1	-
25	VENDRAME Andrea	1	-	-	1	-
26	GANNA Filippo	1	-	1	-	-
27	STORER Michael	1	-	-	1	-
28	MOLANO Juan Sebastián	1	1	-	-	-

 

[jmdirt]

Solid day today TP!

 

[jmdirt]

Good spring all in all, but I was expecting a little more I guess.

EDIT: Maybe I should say hoping for more?

 

[jmdirt]

That's a good sprint for a scrawny guy! I'm not sure if mixing it up like that will help him over three week, but what the heck.

 

[TourOfSardinia]

Nice interview with Tom P.

'Suffering like a dog by yourself, but I enjoyed that' – Tom Pidcock satisfied with time trial performance at Giro d'Italia

'Pretty good to be honest' describes Brit of his ride at the finish in Tirana, after dropping from fifth to 19th overall on stage 2

www.cyclingnews.com

 

[Strawberry_Jams]

Amazed he didn't lose time, especially today with tomorrow stage. Do they think they can control the stage?

 

[hayneplane]

Amazed he didn't lose time, especially today with tomorrow stage. Do they think they can control the stage?

Tomorrow will be make or break for their current strategy.

IMO if he doesn’t win the stage or at least gain solid time in the GC fight then he should drop time in the coming days to hit the breaks on the days with descent finishes.

 

[Strawberry_Jams]

Think it’s starting to look like Bogaerts is the problem. I would suggest moving to a new coach with fresh ideas. Bogaerts seems to be the one with the obsession of planning for the future as a GC rider, while forgetting that Tom is 25 now.

Every grand tour that he doesn’t get something out of it is a waste. Kurt seems to contradict himself constantly. The plan going into the Giro was all about stages, but something seemed to have changed and they got confused between the two plans. You can’t go into a grand tour going for GC without going to altitude before hand.

He wanted Tom to have his cake and eat it as well, and they ended up with cake all over their face and nothing in the mouth.

 

[jmdirt]

Think it’s starting to look like Bogaerts is the problem. I would suggest moving to a new coach with fresh ideas. Bogaerts seems to be the one with the obsession of planning for the future as a GC rider, while forgetting that Tom is 25 now.

Every grand tour that he doesn’t get something out of it is a waste. Kurt seems to contradict himself constantly. The plan going into the Giro was all about stages, but something seemed to have changed and they got confused between the two plans. You can’t go into a grand tour going for GC without going to altitude before hand.

He wanted Tom to have his cake and eat it as well, and they ended up with cake all over their face and nothing in the mouth.

I've been wondering what needs to change for TP to take the next step. I thought that a team change might help, and maybe it did ever so slightly. I've also wondered if TP just isn't as elite as we thought, and/or isn't cut out for stage racing (his junior results show great potential, and he has some solid one day wins but....). His spring campaign was not typical GdI prep so realistically we shouldn't expect too much GC wise I guess. I was a little concerned earlier in the GdI when he said that he "...gets bored...".

 

[search]

Every grand tour that he doesn’t get something out of it is a waste. Kurt seems to contradict himself constantly. The plan going into the Giro was all about stages, but something seemed to have changed and they got confused between the two plans. You can’t go into a grand tour going for GC without going to altitude before hand.

I talked to one of the Q36.5 DSs in Albania, and he said that Pidcock would want to go for GC, so it actually was his plan from the start - even if that's not what he said to the media.

 

[AupaPyama]

The interview with Eurosport a few days earlier was interesting. At first Pidcock is much more at ease and happy. Second he said that he want to try for GC to learn towards big(ger) objectives in the future. It reminded me of the 2024 Tour GC discussion between TP and Ineos. He (still) thinks of himself as a GC rider. I'm not.

But hey, even G won the Tour and he was a classics contender.