Top 50 Cyclists - Personal Scoring System - Born 1970 onwards

[Blanco]

I'm pretty sure Pogacar has already surpassed most in front of him, including Valverde.

Easy, it's a long way... He started with a bang certainly, and right know he looks like successor of Merckx/Hinault, bit didn't Maertens and Lemond for example looked like that too? In 2013 we all thought that Quintana and Sagan would win bunch of GT's and Monuments, but they won 2 each (Ok, Sagan won Worlds 3x, but still...).
I would say that the likes of Boonen, Cancellara, Contador, Valverde, Nibali, Froome are still ahead of Pogacar.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Not sure why Roglic is so high. Maybe I don't follow him that much.
Anyway, nice stuff!!

Panache and trophy cabinet.

 

[Big Doopie]

How can you suggest the same points for PN, TA,... and for monuments with a straight face?

Easily.

 

[BlueRoads]

Easy, it's a long way... He started with a bang certainly, and right know he looks like successor of Merckx/Hinault, bit didn't Maertens and Lemond for example looked like that too? In 2013 we all thought that Quintana and Sagan would win bunch of GT's and Monuments, but they won 2 each (Ok, Sagan won Worlds 3x, but still...).
I would say that the likes of Boonen, Cancellara, Contador, Valverde, Nibali, Froome are still ahead of Pogacar.

I'd say Nibali, Contador and Froome, the others: no. In the end a Tour win is worth so much more than anything else, unless it's a bit of a one-time hazard, achieved by luck, weak contenders and a strong team, which his two wins aren't. In addition two different monuments.

 

[Ranagazoo]

I'm no fan of the way the PCS ranking system works (19th overall in a GT worth more than a stage win...) but your ranking gives quite a sensible order in my opinion. I always prefer riders who are getting results throughout the season than those who peak for one race and do nothing else. That's what I like about Pog

 

[Blanco]

I'd say Nibali, Contador and Froome, the others: no. In the end a Tour win is worth so much more than anything else, unless it's a bit of a one-time hazard, achieved by luck, weak contenders and a strong team, which his two wins aren't. In addition two different monuments.

I see that you don't have much love for the classics riders, and you're overvaluing the Tour a bit...
I would also rank guys like Sagan and Gilbert ahead of Pog. Also Roglic is at least equal, if not ahead...
That could change quickly though...

 

[Breh]

I see that you don't have much love for the classics riders, and you're overvaluing the Tour a bit...
I would also rank guys like Sagan and Gilbert ahead of Pog. Also Roglic is at least equal, if not ahead...
That could change quickly though...

Agreed.

No need to state Pogacar has already surpassed the likes of Gilbert, Boonen and Cancellara.
He'll probably do just that within the next few years but he's not there yet.

 

[Extinction]

I think quality over quantity should be determining for a rider's rank (except when you have both - a rare occurance). But I also think you need to consider finishing times over one's career as an indication of a rider's overall strength. Once a rough idea is obtained from points accrued from wins and top placings, therefore, then I think you should look at those riders' finishing times in the most prestegious races. While the faster riders may get more wins, but will not have quicker finishing times than the bunch they led, they will nomally have much slower finishing times in the hardest classics or stages in stage races and of course gc. And this should be factored into the ranking system.

 

[Breh]

I tried to come up with a scoring system that will ranking cyclist of recent times. I used ProcyclingStats on how they score cyclists on their all-time rankings.

1. Those outside the Top 150 but got Big Wins. This leads to an additional 28 riders. Making the list 178 riders in all.

Who are these riders?

 

[Bonimenier]

Who are these riders?

I was thinking guys like Hayman or Vansummeren possibly. Only 26 to go.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

So Pantani wasn't a climber but Valverde is. You learn something new every day!

 

[Asero831]

Who are these riders?

Of the 28, 25 only has one Big Win.
Andy Schleck, Stijin Devolder and Filippo Ganna are multiple Big Winners.
Andy Schleck finished highest (96th in the final ranking)

SCHLECK Andy

NUYENS Nick

CHAVES Esteban

POELS Wout

PEDERSEN Mads

ARU Fabio

KIRYIENKA Vasil

GONZALEZ Aitor

WESEMANN Steffen

DEVOLDER, Stijin

JUNGELS Bob

ASTARLOA Igor

RUMSAS Raimondas

HESJEDAL Ryder

GANNA Filippo

CASERO Ángel Luis

KNAVEN Servais

PEREIRO Óscar

GRABSCH Bert

ASGREEN Kasper

GUESDON Frédéric

BACKSTEDT Magnus

Maxim Iglinskiy

GEOGHEGAN HART Tao

BOBRIK Vladislav

HAYMAN Mathew

BETTIOL Alberto

VANSUMMEREN Johan

 

[Ilmaestro99]

Number 1 cyclist born since 1970 is Vincenzo Nibali. The only rider who won all 3 grand tours and 2 different monuments. And a great entertainer.

 

[Asero831]

So Pantani wasn't a climber but Valverde is. You learn something new every day!

Pantani just scored the highest in GC scoring races. Valverde accumulates more points in Climbing races.

 

[Big Doopie]

Number 1 cyclist born since 1970 is Vincenzo Nibali. The only rider who won all 3 grand tours and 2 different monuments. And a great entertainer.

who pompously wants to show his competitors his trophy case and then holds on to his team car at 70 km/h going uphill…

Interesting choice.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

who pompously wants to show his competitors his trophy case and then holds on to his team car at 70 km/h going uphill…

Interesting choice.

Name who is better. The trophy cabinet comment was just funny. And he did one mistake by grabbing a team car yes, but was rightly punished and admit his mistake . Meanwhile everyone else mentioned is grabbing cars and sticky bottle at every race (not to mention all the clinic stuff)

 

[Breh]

Of the 28, 25 only has one Big Win.
Andy Schleck, Stijin Devolder and Filippo Ganna are multiple Big Winners.
Andy Schleck finished highest (96th in the final ranking)

SCHLECK Andy

NUYENS Nick

CHAVES Esteban

POELS Wout

PEDERSEN Mads

ARU Fabio

KIRYIENKA Vasil

GONZALEZ Aitor

WESEMANN Steffen

DEVOLDER, Stijin

JUNGELS Bob

ASTARLOA Igor

RUMSAS Raimondas

HESJEDAL Ryder

GANNA Filippo

CASERO Ángel Luis

KNAVEN Servais

PEREIRO Óscar

GRABSCH Bert

ASGREEN Kasper

GUESDON Frédéric

BACKSTEDT Magnus

Maxim Iglinskiy

GEOGHEGAN HART Tao

BOBRIK Vladislav

HAYMAN Mathew

BETTIOL Alberto

VANSUMMEREN Johan

Thanks! So these are the riders out of the top150 but with a big win?
Where did Oliver Zaugg go? Or what am I missing?

 

[Bonimenier]

Number 1 cyclist born since 1970 is Vincenzo Nibali. The only rider who won all 3 grand tours and 2 different monuments. And a great entertainer.

Only 2 of the 5 monuments? Pathetic

 

[Asero831]

Thanks! So these are the riders out of the top150 but with a big win?
Where did Oliver Zaugg go? Or what am I missing?

Zaugg and Casartelli were not included. Not sure why they do not have an All-Time Ranking points in PCS

 

[tobydawq]

Of the 28, 25 only has one Big Win.
Andy Schleck, Stijin Devolder and Filippo Ganna are multiple Big Winners.
Andy Schleck finished highest (96th in the final ranking)

SCHLECK Andy

NUYENS Nick

CHAVES Esteban

POELS Wout

PEDERSEN Mads

ARU Fabio

KIRYIENKA Vasil

GONZALEZ Aitor

WESEMANN Steffen

DEVOLDER, Stijin

JUNGELS Bob

ASTARLOA Igor

RUMSAS Raimondas

HESJEDAL Ryder

GANNA Filippo

CASERO Ángel Luis

KNAVEN Servais

PEREIRO Óscar

GRABSCH Bert

ASGREEN Kasper

GUESDON Frédéric

BACKSTEDT Magnus

Maxim Iglinskiy

GEOGHEGAN HART Tao

BOBRIK Vladislav

HAYMAN Mathew

BETTIOL Alberto

VANSUMMEREN Johan

Ganna is a multiple big winner?

That would mean Cancellara has 13 big wins and is far superior to everybody else of the era.

 

[Asero831]

Ganna is a multiple big winner?

That would mean Cancellara has 13 big wins and is far superior to everybody else of the era.

Yes. Ganna is a two-time world champion.
Cancellara only ranked 9th in PCS list, 12 in peak years but #1 in Big Wins. In the end, he landed 5th which is agreeable to most.

 

[tobydawq]

Yes. Ganna is a two-time world champion.
Cancellara only ranked 9th in PCS list, 12 in peak years but #1 in Big Wins. In the end, he landed 5th which is agreeable to most.

But since when is a TT World Championship counting as a big win?

 

[CyclistAbi]

For me it's mostly interesting as such rankings reveal i am not all that biased in the Roglič thread. They show on how close lets say Roglič and Contador already are. Compared to lets say Pogačar and Froome. But still in such thread as this some people claim that for example Pogačar is already way ahead Contador.

A thought on bias.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

For me it's mostly interesting as such rankings reveal i am not all that biased in the Roglič thread. They show on how close lets say Roglič and Contador already are. Compared to lets say Pogačar and Froome. But still in such thread as this some people claim that for example Pogačar is already way ahead Contador.

A thought on bias.

All of them are behind our Vincenzo

 

[Bonimenier]

For me it's mostly interesting as such rankings reveal i am not all that biased in the Roglič thread. They show on how close lets say Roglič and Contador already are. Compared to lets say Pogačar and Froome. But still in such thread as this some people claim that for example Pogačar is already way ahead Contador.

A thought on bias.

Good one