Tour de France 2015 Stage 16: Bourg-de-Péage-Gap 201km

[Cramps]

Has Gallopin had problems with descending before?
I think he lost about 3 minutes in 10km...

 

[mspgrandi]

Did anyone see what happened with Gallopin?

either 1) he fell and got scared, but he didnt look scratched

2) he decided it was better to get out of the GC , given he dropped pretty early today, and what is the point of get 11th, better try win a stage

3) he had a mechanical, broke a break or flat tyre

 

[TMP402]

Re: Re:

If Froome wins this - with yellow jersey pressure early on, negative media, negative actions by stupid fans, a team where his main mountain helpers Porte, Roche, Koenig and Poels have been absent often, and now apparently sickness in the Sky team - that has to be a more deserved/embattled/respected battle than any of the past three Tours I would say.

You would, wouldn't you? rofl

And why's that, champ?

 

[MTroon]

Barguil is a menace and a liar. Contact with TJVG? BS! If there was contact it happened before the critical point of the turn. Barguil was in a position on that turn where no rider should have been. He put his foot down because he realized that everything was going wrong with his approach. He is a disgrace. The last time I saw a rider with so little regard for the safety of other riders he had just been punched in the head and was lying in a ditch. We haven't seen him since.

 

[TMP402]

Re: Re:

If Froome wins this - with yellow jersey pressure early on, negative media, negative actions by stupid fans, a team where his main mountain helpers Porte, Roche, Koenig and Poels have been absent often, and now apparently sickness in the Sky team - that has to be a more deserved/embattled/respected battle than any of the past three Tours I would say.

Ehm Sky has always been the strongest team... even today he had 3 guys, no other team has more than 2!

Poels was pretty spent, Porte was dropped on the final climb, who knows if Thomas won't DNS tomorrow.

 

[TomLPC]

Has Gallopin had problems with descending before?
I think he lost about 3 minutes in 10km...

No he's usually been really good, in fact he has won stages in the tour and paris-nice attacking on the descents IIRC

 

[TMP402]

Has Gallopin had problems with descending before?
I think he lost about 3 minutes in 10km...

Enough people were tipping him for today that I can't think he does. As other people said, maybe he dropped back to chase stages instead.

 

[TMP402]

Re: Re:

If Froome wins this - with yellow jersey pressure early on, negative media, negative actions by stupid fans, a team where his main mountain helpers Porte, Roche, Koenig and Poels have been absent often, and now apparently sickness in the Sky team - that has to be a more deserved/embattled/respected battle than any of the past three Tours I would say.

His team have been great so far

In the sense that he hasn't lost time yes, but it doesn't feel like 2013 or 2012.

 

[goggalor]

Re: Re:

He are trying to pass 5 riders before the swing, that it's just stupid.

Stupid decision by a poor bike-handler at an inappropriate time and place.
Inexcusable, indefensible, unjustifiable and unforgiveable for a professional
rider in that situation.

Don't know about that, I don't have any trouble forgiving him. It's a bike race, a bike race going full speed down a crazy descent. *** happens.

 

[reshp1]

Calling BS on the tejay shoulder nudge ...

This gif starts quite far out:

http://gfycat.com/HarmlessTerrificIvorybilledwoodpecker

That's just risky descending. Hopefully Barguil learns, no place in the TDF for that kind of riding.

Not defending Barguil, but you can see them close together at the start of the clip. Possible shoulder bump happened there and through him off. Otherwise, completely his fault.

Still his fault, he shouldn't even be next to tejay in that situation. He was late braking and would have come along side tejay from behind and in his blind spot. Just a dumb place to go 3 wide.

 

[Pierrot le Fou]

Re: Re:

If Froome wins this - with yellow jersey pressure early on, negative media, negative actions by stupid fans, a team where his main mountain helpers Porte, Roche, Koenig and Poels have been absent often, and now apparently sickness in the Sky team - that has to be a more deserved/embattled/respected battle than any of the past three Tours I would say.

His team have been great so far

In the sense that he hasn't lost time yes, but it doesn't feel like 2013 or 2012.

He's still had comfortably the strongest team in the race. I don't think you can use team weakness as a reason to talk up Froome's achievements.

 

[oldcrank]

Barguil is a menace and a liar. Contact with TJVG? BS! If there was contact it happened before the critical point of the turn. Barguil was in a position on that turn where no rider should have been. He put his foot down because he realized that everything was going wrong with his approach. He is a disgrace. The last time I saw a rider with so little regard for the safety of other riders he had just been punched in the head and was lying in a ditch. We haven't seen him since.

I agree 100%, my friend.

 

[Eagle]

Re: Re:

If Froome wins this - with yellow jersey pressure early on, negative media, negative actions by stupid fans, a team where his main mountain helpers Porte, Roche, Koenig and Poels have been absent often, and now apparently sickness in the Sky team - that has to be a more deserved/embattled/respected battle than any of the past three Tours I would say.

His team have been great so far

In the sense that he hasn't lost time yes, but it doesn't feel like 2013 or 2012.

Did you not see plateau de beille, Porte dropped everyone but Quintana and the took the time bouns off him

 

[goggalor]

It's kind of impressive that MTN Qhubeka is now 2nd on teams classification behind Movistar.

 

[Vino's Mum]

Did anyone see what happened with Gallopin?

A Lotto Soudal tweet just says he was distanced on Mense, presumably when Kreuzi and Contador upped the pace.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

a top 5 with Contador, Froome, Quintana, Valverde and Nibali (in random order) is still possible the way Nibali is riding lately. He'll move up.
I still think v Garderen is susceptible to a bad day

 

[TMP402]

Gallopin being distanced was inevitable, it's just a surprise it was this stage. He's yet to show progress from being a Kwiatkowski-lite type of rider.

 

[djpbaltimore]

I don't see how the race would've been any different if Gesink was not in the race. The criticism seems pretty hyperbolic. Am I missing something?

 

[TMP402]

Re: Re:

If Froome wins this - with yellow jersey pressure early on, negative media, negative actions by stupid fans, a team where his main mountain helpers Porte, Roche, Koenig and Poels have been absent often, and now apparently sickness in the Sky team - that has to be a more deserved/embattled/respected battle than any of the past three Tours I would say.

His team have been great so far

In the sense that he hasn't lost time yes, but it doesn't feel like 2013 or 2012.

Did you not see plateau de beille, Porte dropped everyone but Quintana and the took the time bouns off him

This is true, but Porte being distanced on the climb today, unless planned (which I find hard to believe since Poels looked tired and I would have thought Porte was the better descender than Thomas) doesn't point towards him being able to repeat that kind of perfomance in the Alps where it matters.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Re:

I don't see how the race would've been any different if Gesink was not in the race. The criticism seems pretty hyperbolic. Am I missing something?

Yeah, you are missing half the members here are insane.

 

[b.broadhurst]

There is illness going around the Sky camp.

A rest day tomorrow rather than a day in the Alps is good timing.

 

[Vasilis]

Re: Re:

If Froome wins this - with yellow jersey pressure early on, negative media, negative actions by stupid fans, a team where his main mountain helpers Porte, Roche, Koenig and Poels have been absent often, and now apparently sickness in the Sky team - that has to be a more deserved/embattled/respected battle than any of the past three Tours I would say.

Ehm Sky has always been the strongest team... even today he had 3 guys, no other team has more than 2!

Poels was pretty spent, Porte was dropped on the final climb, who knows if Thomas won't DNS tomorrow.

Nobody will start tomorrow...

 

[Frosty]

Re: Re:

If Froome wins this - with yellow jersey pressure early on, negative media, negative actions by stupid fans, a team where his main mountain helpers Porte, Roche, Koenig and Poels have been absent often, and now apparently sickness in the Sky team - that has to be a more deserved/embattled/respected battle than any of the past three Tours I would say.

Ehm Sky has always been the strongest team... even today he had 3 guys, no other team has more than 2!

Poels was pretty spent, Porte was dropped on the final climb, who knows if Thomas won't DNS tomorrow.

Nobody will start tomorrow...

Was wondering who was going to be the first to point that out

 

[b.broadhurst]

The Vuelta is just 4 weeks after the Tour this year, is that normal?

Can't see Froomey doubling up.

 

[TMP402]

Re: Re:

If Froome wins this - with yellow jersey pressure early on, negative media, negative actions by stupid fans, a team where his main mountain helpers Porte, Roche, Koenig and Poels have been absent often, and now apparently sickness in the Sky team - that has to be a more deserved/embattled/respected battle than any of the past three Tours I would say.

Ehm Sky has always been the strongest team... even today he had 3 guys, no other team has more than 2!

Poels was pretty spent, Porte was dropped on the final climb, who knows if Thomas won't DNS tomorrow.

Nobody will start tomorrow...

Ahaha true.