Tour de France 2020 | Stage 19 (Bourg-en-Bresse - Champagnole, 166.5 km)

[Breezy1985]

Am I right in thinking that if Sam finishes ahead of Sagan in the intermediate sprint on Sunday the jersey is secured before the Champs

 

[tobydawq]

Am I right in thinking that if Sam finishes ahead of Sagan in the intermediate sprint on Sunday the jersey is secured before the Champs

Well, apparently you get docked 13 points if you get relegated...

 

[roundabout]

Same thoughts here. Ewan doesn't need to finish the Giro. Just some stage wins. At the other hand, what else can he ride this year after the Giro? There isn't much for him, he could as well stay ther until the end.

There is only 1 sprinter stage in the last 8 days. I think Ewan would only try to stay in the race in the final week if he hadn't won a stage.

 

[Zoetemelk-fan]

So it's still dumb. They know he is a big threat and they didn't acknowledge / keep him in check.

Yep, but that's what normally happens in a chasing group with slightly different agendas and even minor disagreements will happen on who to pull and suffer more than the others, especially when all are á bloc. From there the seconds quickly counts ;-)

 

[Broccolidwarf]

Am I right in thinking that if Sam finishes ahead of Sagan in the intermediate sprint on Sunday the jersey is secured before the Champs

He is 55 points ahead.

The intermediate is 20 points and the finish 50 points.

So effectively, as long as he loses less than 5 points to Sagan in the intermediate, the jersey is secure - baring someone getting penalised at the finish of course

 

[Broccolidwarf]

There is only 1 sprinter stage in the last 8 days. I think Ewan would only try to stay in the race in the final week if he hadn't won a stage.

But it's the most important sprint the entire season, so of course all the big sprinters fight to be able to take part in it

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

You have to know what is a race-winning move and what likely isn't. If someone comes over the top when everyone is at or over their limit as SKA did then clearly that is a race-winning move. If Bennett was able to get over to him I doubt there is another race-winning move coming for a while (nobody would have the legs at that point) and then Devenyns comes to the front and it settles down for a few minutes until it starts over again

I think that what you are suggesting is sound strategy for most favourites in most groups of this size. But I don’t think it can apply here. Bennett had 10 opponents in the group. Every single one of them knows he is a much faster sprinter. Every single one of them is an experienced classics hard man and will be convinced that he is stronger than Bennett, the only one who isn’t frequently at the pointy end of classics, in a chase situation. Every single one of them is in a do or die situation, effectively with 20 km to determine if he gets a Tour stage.

What’s more, the second and third fastest guys in the group, the two who might just about think they have a hope in a sprint and might in other circumstances settle for a while in response to a show of strength? Those are the two most determined to jump him for points reasons.

To put it another way, if I’m a DS and one of my riders is in that group and responds to an effort by Bennett by doing anything other than coming over the top of him, I will be screaming at him loud enough for the radio to rupture his eardrum.

 

[Anderis]

So effectively, as long as he loses less than 5 points to Sagan in the intermediate, the jersey is secure - baring someone getting penalised at the finish of course

Someone?

I think there's only one man, who, if he gets penalised, will it affect green jersey standings at this point.

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

Even if Bennett gets relegated, Sagan would need to pick up 42 points or Trentin 56 on the stage to draw equal. It will be interesting to see if the contest the intermediate just in case lol

(Is the tie break stage wins or GC?)

 

[Broccolidwarf]

Someone?

I think there's only one man, who, if he gets penalised, will it affect green jersey standings at this point.

Actually 2

 

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Even if Bennett gets relegated, Sagan would need to pick up 42 points or Trentin 56 on the stage to draw equal. It will be interesting to see if the contest the intermediate just in case lol

(Is the tie break stage wins or GC?)

Stage wins 1st (Bennett 2, Trentin 0, Sagan 0), then intermediate sprint wins (Bennett 2, Trentin 5, Sagan 0), then GC

 

[Leinster]

Stage wins 1st (Bennett 2, Trentin 0, Sagan 0), then intermediate sprint wins (Bennett 2, Trentin 5, Sagan 0), then GC

If Bennett has 2 stage wins, he wins the jersey quite comfortably.

 

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oups

 

[jmdirt]

I love it when aggressive racing pays off especially from a break!

 

[Lequack]

24 Big Photos from Stage 19 (more to come) — corvos/aso/bettini
http://www.steephill.tv/2020/tour-de-france/photos/stage-19/

http://www.steephill.tv/2020/tour-de-france/photos/stage-19/

 

[Leinster]

Ideally, Ewan would ride the Vuelta but I don't ride the team - By my reckoning there are seven stages which Ewan could go for at the Giro, though I don't expect him to finish the race.

the race? I don't expect him to finish the first week, if he's climbing like he was today.

 

[tobydawq]

the race? I don't expect him to finish the first week, if he's climbing like he was today.

I was thinking the same. He seems done.

 

[Armchair cyclist]

A very odd statistical quirk: nobody lost places in GC today. Plenty of riders moved up a bit, but nobody was overtaken by more of the 15 late breakaway riders than the number of DNFs/DNSs that had been above them.

 

[Broccolidwarf]

A very odd statistical quirk: nobody lost places in GC today. Plenty of riders moved up a bit, but nobody was overtaken by more of the 15 late breakaway riders than the number of DNFs/DNSs that had been above them.

If you did that data compilation yourself, I am mightily impressed!

 

[happytramp]

Reckon the green jersey is like three stage victories.

Especially this year since its been a very visible battle and it's animated a lot of the race.

 

[Red Rick]

t19 fucking shit brakes

Watch "t19 *** *** brakes" on Streamable.

streamable.com

 

[SarahtheDane]

That feeling when almost half of the breakaway is danish (sorry, proud dane), and you know they don't have a shot of winning.

So, this didn't age well.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Congratulations to Søren Kragh Andersen for winning stage 19. Second time Mezgec finished second in such way, still one chance left. Sprinters made the stage entertaining. Kudos to Sagan, regardless of the fact Bennett more or less won the green, Sagan not being in his best shape, at least tried something. In the past couple of stages.

GC contenders having an easy day, focused on tomorrow's TT.

 

[tobydawq]

Congratulations to Søren Kragh Andersen for winning stage 19. Second time Mezgec finished second in such way, still one chance left. Sprinters made the stage entertaining. Kudos to Sagan, regardless of the fact Bennett more or less won the green, Sagan not being in his best shape, at least tried something. In the past couple of stages.

GC contenders having an easy day, focused on tomorrow's TT.

It's still a bit of a mystery to me what happened to Bennett. On stage 13, he was on the brink of death, but in the rest of the race (apart from stage 14) he could suddenly follow all Sagan's moves.

 

[RedheadDane]

If you did that data compilation yourself, I am mightily impressed!

Aaah, it's not that complicated just look here, Plenty of little green arrows, no little red arrows.

So, this didn't age well.

Maybe you reverse-jinxed him.