Thanks very much!The first post in the race design thread has a few sites/tools listed you can use. It's a very old thread so I don't know how up to date it is
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Thanks very much!The first post in the race design thread has a few sites/tools listed you can use. It's a very old thread so I don't know how up to date it is
Actually reading the Velowire paragraph about Andorra (which they think is uncertain due to Covid-19), the stage could very well finish on Cabus.
Not bad at all.
Good luck with early attacks on Beixalis before Cabus. Also Envalira from Puymorens is way too soft to "decimate" and Puymorens itself is a long false flat. It would be a nice tappone if Pailheres>Envalira>Beixalis>Cabus but then i assume the tappone will be the Portet stage.Well, I'm afraid that Envalira is just not steep enough nowadays anymore to expect any action there already. This profile + Beixalis in between Envalira and Cabus would be awesome. Early climb for a strong break and Mont Louis and Envalira to tire the legs and decimate the peloton. Beixalis for the early attacks.
Beixalis is a nice climb but not a platform for attack in a Tour peloton by any stretch of the imagination. I see Andorra stages just work much better for La Vuelta than for the Tour.
My prefered option would be Gallina descent finish or finish on a lesser climb shortly after.
I'd like to see them do the 2017 Vuelta stage only with Gallina between Rabassa and Comella, personally. Or alternatively Gallina before a finish at Rabassa.Beixalis is a nice climb but not a platform for attack in a Tour peloton by any stretch of the imagination. I see Andorra stages just work much better for La Vuelta than for the Tour.
My prefered option would be Gallina descent finish or finish on a lesser climb shortly after.
Imagine Alaphilippe has a serious dig on the signal d'Uchon (assuming that's on the course), don't you think at least some favourites will feel itchy?I'd like to see them do the 2017 Vuelta stage only with Gallina between Rabassa and Comella, personally. Or alternatively Gallina before a finish at Rabassa.
The issue with the rumoured Le Creusot stage is that it would come directly before the Alpine block so GC action is very unlikely.
Based on recent GTs, possible but not that likely imo.Imagine Alaphilippe has a serious dig on the signal d'Uchon (assuming that's on the course), don't you think at least some favourites will feel itchy?
The presentation on thursday is cancelled. Route will be announced on TV sunday.
The stage to Malaucène is more or less confirmed. What leaves me speechless is the fact that the following article speaks about adding an extra 10k loop around Malaucène, because the downhill is not hard enough to open gaps. Ahhmmm...what are they climbing before that descent...ah yes...22k @ 7,5%. So sure let's make it more difficult for someone who attacks on the climb.
Le cyclisme évolue aussi : désormais, les coureurs font les descentes. Il ne suffit pas de grimper. Il faut pédaler dans les descentes pour grappiller des secondes. La descente de Malaucène n'a aucun intérêt sur le plan sportif disent les spécialistes. Sauf si on rajoute une boucle d'une dizaine de kilomètres pour un match entre les purs grimpeurs et les puncheurs-rouleurs à leur poursuite.
CARTE - Tour de France 2021 : la 11e étape, de Sorgues à Malaucène avec double passage au Ventoux - France Bleu
La 11e étape du tour de France 2021 est 100% vauclusienne. Départ de Sorgues ce mercredi 7 juillet et arrivée à Malaucène avec passage au sommet du Ventoux. Les professionnels du tourisme se réjouissent déjà du retour du tour de France au Ventoux.www.francebleu.fr
Are they completely f*cking dense? I can already hear the Sepp Kuss interview.The stage to Malaucène is more or less confirmed. What leaves me speechless is the fact that the following article speaks about adding an extra 10k loop around Malaucène, because the downhill is not hard enough to open gaps. Ahhmmm...what are they climbing before that descent...ah yes...22k @ 7,5%. So sure let's make it more difficult for someone who attacks on the climb.
Le cyclisme évolue aussi : désormais, les coureurs font les descentes. Il ne suffit pas de grimper. Il faut pédaler dans les descentes pour grappiller des secondes. La descente de Malaucène n'a aucun intérêt sur le plan sportif disent les spécialistes. Sauf si on rajoute une boucle d'une dizaine de kilomètres pour un match entre les purs grimpeurs et les puncheurs-rouleurs à leur poursuite.
CARTE - Tour de France 2021 : la 11e étape, de Sorgues à Malaucène avec double passage au Ventoux - France Bleu
La 11e étape du tour de France 2021 est 100% vauclusienne. Départ de Sorgues ce mercredi 7 juillet et arrivée à Malaucène avec passage au sommet du Ventoux. Les professionnels du tourisme se réjouissent déjà du retour du tour de France au Ventoux.www.francebleu.fr
It's not a huge issue but I fear it will make riders hesitant. I 100% don't think what we saw on the Madeleine in 2010 is a realistic scenario anymore. Not because it wouldn't be possible if the best climbers went for it, but because we just don't see the two biggest favorite of the Tour just going for it like that with 10 km to the top of the final climb and 40 km to go in general. Maybe I'm wrong, I definitely see gc attacks anyway, but it's just unnecessary. Why put a factor that could scare a riders away from attacking into a stage when you absolutely don't have to.10 km is not a problem. There was 10 km after Madeleine in 2010. Ventoux is a beast and will be raced hard. A finish in Carpentras would be a problem.
Anyway, I don't see how they can do a loop in only 10 km around Malaucène, if so they have to use some small roads.
ASO is stupid enough to put a hard MTF right after that stage, even if that means a long transfer. Usually they can't pace the respective blocks of mountain stages the right way to save their life.10 km is not a problem. There was 10 km after Madeleine in 2010. Ventoux is a beast and will be raced hard. A finish in Carpentras would be a problem.
Anyway, I don't see how they can do a loop in only 10 km around Malaucène, if so they have to use some small roads.
They did go for it on the Marie Blanque this year. Sort of.It's not a huge issue but I fear it will make riders hesitant. I 100% don't think what we saw on the Madeleine in 2010 is a realistic scenario anymore. Not because it wouldn't be possible if the best climbers went for it, but because we just don't see the two biggest favorite of the Tour just going for it like that with 10 km to the top of the final climb and 40 km to go in general. Maybe I'm wrong, I definitely see gc attacks anyway, but it's just unnecessary. Why put a factor that could scare a riders away from attacking into a stage when you absolutely don't have to.
But there was not other option in Laruns. Here there would be.For the same reason not to finish at the top of the climb. Was the stage to Laruns worse this year because of the flat in the end?
The 8k at the end in Laruns absolutely made the stage worse because they cost Hirschi a glorious win.But there was not other option in Laruns. Here there would be.
And obviously the Laruns stage turned out just fine but I don't think the 5 km at the end or whatever that was made it any better. If a rider decides to not attack because of those flat kilometres however, that could easily make the stage worse