I just don't buy for one second that's 4700m.
I really don't get the praise for that stage. You know 100% nothing happens before Couillole, and that climb itself is nothing special.
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I really don't get the praise for that stage. You know 100% nothing happens before Couillole, and that climb itself is nothing special.
Agreed. That stage is nothing special.
I will wait before I see the rest of the routing for making too much of a judgement, but I really hope that this isn't the big Mercantour stage. That should contain some combo of the climbs of Bonette, Cayolle, Allos and Champs. The insane option would be all of them and a finish at Auron, but that won't happen. A more realistic one is Cayolle-Bonette-Auron. It would be a great shame with a Tour finish in Nice without them managing to use the big Mercantour climbs and not only it's smaller brothers a bit further south.
Nice-col de Braus is 948 meters altitude difference
Sospel-col de Turini 1235 meters
Roquebilliere - San Martin/Colmiane is 929 meters
Saint-Sauveur-sur-Tinée - Cuillole is 1168 meters
So that stage is at the very least 4280 meters. Probably not 4700 either, but ok as far as the climb density goes
Sospel-col de Turini 1235 meters
Roquebilliere - San Martin/Colmiane is 929 meters
Saint-Sauveur-sur-Tinée - Cuillole is 1168 meters
So that stage is at the very least 4280 meters. Probably not 4700 either, but ok as far as the climb density goes
Jumbo will probably drill the peloton all day with the final ITT in mind. Sounds like fun to me.
The stage is likely +4,700m if you account for every bump in the road. I always use the LFR "Desnivel+" to compare GT stages. Best tool we have.
How about a re-run of the stage 2 2017 Vuelta from Nimes to Gruissan? 200 km at full gas, with a certain Adam Blythe coming third, and if memory serves me right, before his team bus went up in smoke when some crazy put an old mattress under the bus and set it alight. You can not make this stuff up!
Velowire talks about a finish confirmed on valloire on stage 4. So, col du galibier will be back, probably after col d agnel and col d izoard.
Another stage finish probably on super devoluy and barcelonette, with the return of col de la bonette.
Probably it will be a route with a lot of mountains stages and a lot of altitude.
Col du haag also rumoured.
Another stage finish probably on super devoluy and barcelonette, with the return of col de la bonette.
Probably it will be a route with a lot of mountains stages and a lot of altitude.
Col du haag also rumoured.
Not going to see Agnello, Izoard, and Galiber on stage 4. That is an all time hard stage.
probably something like Sestrieres, Montgenevre, Galiber
Comment section != Velowire
Mont-Cenis and Télégraphe are much more likely to feature, I think.
Are we that confident in that?
I'm not very up to date on the sponsorship deals like the Mercantour Alps thing.
Imagine a rerun of the legendary Agnel, Izoard and Galibier stage from 2011 on stage 4 of a Tour de France. Lol.
Not that it would be bad, quite the contrary!
Just by the very, very early looks of it it will be an incredibly hard Tour de France. Just like this year, you need to be on your a-game from stage 1.
Not that it would be bad, quite the contrary!
Just by the very, very early looks of it it will be an incredibly hard Tour de France. Just like this year, you need to be on your a-game from stage 1.
well, those are not all real rumours, but more discussion on Velowire comment section. Col du Haag is not so likely as for now the Dijon/Cote d'Or region is in more serious rumours mentioned as most nothern regions that will be visit. Besides, they visit already the exact same regions this years tour. But I'm pretty sure this col will make it appearence in one of the next years. Furthermore, a stage that is too hard for being the queen stage (agnel, izoard, galibier, valloire) in modern tour standards is not going to happen on stage four. A combi Mont-Cenis and Valloire is must more likely, and that are already a solid HC + borderline 1st/HC.
Mont Cenis and Telegraphe on stage 4 is the sort of stage that sounds really hard on paper but then I think it's really easy to be a lame duck stage as well. Same for Galibier south to be honest. Telegraphe is hardest in the beginning, but it's not a climb where you attack all out at 9km from the top, and the descent into Valloire may negate attacks altogether. On top of that, you get 50km of descending and false flat downhill so the watts in the 50 minutes before you hit Telegraphe are gonna be low.
Galibier south would likely just be Sestriere/Montgenevre into Galibier and that's just an easy grinder until a single km at 9% to the top.
Galibier south would likely just be Sestriere/Montgenevre into Galibier and that's just an easy grinder until a single km at 9% to the top.
Still. A stage with two 2000m climbs and a 12 km, 6 % climb al the end already on stage 4 is pretty good.
I am new to the rumors for the 2024 Tour. I did read the rumors of Stage 4 in Valloire and then 4 days in
Côte-d'Or (presumably a rest day, stage and stage start). Do we think then that we're doing the Alps pretty much right away after Italy , then working our way to Dijon at the end of week 1 and then riding to the Pyrenees for the end of the 2nd/start of the 3rd week?
Odd, interesting route next year. Do we expect a 2nd individual time trial (beyond the one we know on Stage 21)? If so, any guess when/where?
Côte-d'Or (presumably a rest day, stage and stage start). Do we think then that we're doing the Alps pretty much right away after Italy , then working our way to Dijon at the end of week 1 and then riding to the Pyrenees for the end of the 2nd/start of the 3rd week?
Odd, interesting route next year. Do we expect a 2nd individual time trial (beyond the one we know on Stage 21)? If so, any guess when/where?
Alps like in 2020, both beginning and end.
I hope one of the Côte d’Or stages will be an ITT.
View: https://twitter.com/ammattipyoraily/status/1686499140165906432
Some information that i talked.
Some information that i talked.
So, you are telling me that there's a chance?
BREAKING NEWS!
It has leaked that Sophie Ricourt asked @Mayomaniac to design a Barcelonnette stage that would be the queen stage of the race, held on the last Thursday of the race. He asked her if she would pay for some roadworks, and she replied: "I'll do anything, just make sure it's a memorable stage!"
And so he granted her wish and traced a stage starting and ending in Barcelonnette:
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