Tour de France Tour de France 2024 route rumours and announcements

[Andy schleck]

So, you are telling me that there's a chance?

Wow, what a demonic stage.

If they put just col de vars and col de la bonette with the finish in jausiers or barcelonette, i will be happy "just" with that.

 

[BigCoward]

So, you are telling me that there's a chance?

What, there's not another climb you can squeeze in between Ceyolle and Bonnette?

 

[OlavEH]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1686499140165906432

View: https://twitter.com/ammattipyoraily/status/1686499140165906432


Some information that i talked.

In the link it says Gap - Barcelonnette via Bonette. The only viable way of doing that stage would have to be to pave the section between Moutiere and Bonette and loop back north that way. An other way of doing that stage would probably be too long.

 

[Red Rick]

In the link it says Gap - Barcelonnette via Bonette. The only viable way of doing that stage would have to be to pave the section between Moutiere and Bonette and loop back north that way. An other way of doing that stage would probably be too long.

Moutiere would be amazing.

But I will admit I haven't talked about it enough to claim to have memed it into happening.

I guess it would not have any significant climbs before Bonette? Col de Vars would make it ~200km. It's doable but I think the current philosophy would be "eh Bonette-Moutiere is enough"

 

[Netserk]

The only viable way of doing that stage would have to be to pave the section between Moutiere and Bonette and loop back north that way.

 

[OlavEH]

Moutiere would be amazing.

But I will admit I haven't talked about it enough to claim to have memed it into happening.

I guess it would not have any significant climbs before Bonette? Col de Vars would make it ~200km. It's doable but I think the current philosophy would be "eh Bonette-Moutiere is enough"

Well, they have done/paved Portet, Spandelles and Loze the last few years. So I would assume that re-paving Moutiere and renovating and paving that section between Moutiere and Bonette is absolutely viable.

I on the other hand would also be quite satisfied if they did Cayolle followed by Bonette.

 

[Netserk]

Having read the actual article, it's of course not happening, but a man can still dream.

Three days or more in the Hautes-Alpes and Ubaye

It remains to imagine the scenario: it could take this form for example

Wednesday July 17: An arrival at Super-Dévoluy from the foot of Mont Ventoux?

Thursday July 18: A Gap-Barcelonnette stage? Some hope to see the Tour cross the Col de Moissières for the first time...

Friday July 19: An Embrun-Isola 2000 (or Auron) stage via the Vars and Restefond/la Bonette passes?

EDIT:

So we'll have to settle for this then: https://ridewithgps.com/routes/43902732

 

[Red Rick]

Well, they have done/paved Portet, Spandelles and Loze the last few years. So I would assume that re-paving Moutiere and renovating and paving that section between Moutiere and Bonette is absolutely viable.

I on the other hand would also be quite satisfied if they did Cayolle followed by Bonette.

To my knowledge, most of Moutiere is paved and it's only a small section towards the Bonette junction? Bonette-Moutiere combo just seems too good to be true to me.

But in general I am a big fan of using the Alps Maritime more and better

 

[tobydawq]

So, you are telling me that there's a chance?

I hope you can be satisfied by less

 

[Netserk]

I hope you can be satisfied by less

Yes, I will settle for this:

So we'll have to settle for this then: https://ridewithgps.com/routes/43902732

 

[ice&fire]

To my knowledge, most of Moutiere is paved and it's only a small section towards the Bonette junction? Bonette-Moutiere combo just seems too good to be true to me.

But in general I am a big fan of using the Alps Maritime more and better

There's your French version of the Gamoniteiro rumour that's never happenning.

From satellite pics, only 3km between Moutiere and Restefond are unpaved, and they're all uphill. That's only 1/3 the length of the unpaved section in Finestre.

I recall that according to some ASO officials Col des Champs was discarded for the PraLoup stage in 2015 because of the bad road condition, and la Cayolle has not been used for along time for the same reasons. But the Moutiere has a 0.5km paved descent before going uphill until Restefond, at the junction with the Bonnette road just below the turn where J-L Augustyne went offroad.

 

[Valv.Piti]

What thats Netserk, Vars, Bonnette, Moutiere and Pra Loup or Auron?

Looking at these rumours, chances are this will be the hardest 5 last days ever in a GT. I can barely see how it won't be. Jumbo and Jonas' tactic will be quite clear - lose as little time as possible going into the last 5 days.

 

[Red Rick]

What thats Netserk, Vars, Bonnette, Moutiere and Pra Loup or Auron?

Looking at these rumours, chances are this will be the hardest 5 last days ever in a GT. I can barely see how it won't be. Jumbo and Jonas' tactic will be quite clear - lose as little time as possible going into the last 5 days.

Vars, Bonette, Moutiere-Bonnete, finish on Auron.

 

[ice&fire]

Auron. What a name! Halfway between the evil character in LOTR and the talisman in Neverending Story. That would be epic.

 

[gavia88]

Vars, Bonette, Moutiere-Bonnete, finish on Auron.

I guess a realistic option if you skipp Moutiere.

So just Vars, Bonette, Auron.

 

[Andy schleck]

I guess a realistic option if you skipp Moutiere.

So just Vars, Bonette, Auron.

I will be happy just with vars and bonette.

 

[Jumbo Visma Fan :)]

I have a feeling this Tour is going to be backloaded, but based on the rumors the last week looks encouraging.

 

[Red Rick]

We'll be happy with half of a 2016 Giro stage.

 

[Netserk]

We'll be happy with half of a 2016 Giro stage.

That one was already short in its full length. But when the standard stage is shorter, the short stages must become even shorter.

 

[Rob5091]

So how do these mountainous stages make it more "Remco friendly"? Where's the 100 km of TT-ing?

 

[Rechtschreibfehler]

So how do these mountainous stages make it more "Remco friendly"? Where's the 100 km of TT-ing?

You don't understand everything makes it more Remco friendly, except for rain, but that's not part of the course!

 

[Valv.Piti]

With this route, I expect at least a 30 km rather flat ITT similar to 2021 in week 1 or 2. I think Prudhomme wanna cater to Remco, and I also think (or hopes) he knows it will actually make for a better race if Remco gets a lead, even if Pogacar and Vingegaard are also deadly in a GT TT

 

[Andy schleck]

With this route, I expect at least a 30 km rather flat ITT similar to 2021 in week 1 or 2. I think Prudhomme wanna cater to Remco, and I also think (or hopes) he knows it will actually make for a better race if Remco gets a lead, even if Pogacar and Vingegaard are also deadly in a GT TT

Are you sure that remco gets a lead even with a TT in week 1 or 2?
I'm not even talking about the fact that there will be mountains before that first TT.

 

[Valv.Piti]

No, but in theory Remco should take some time on these guys in top shape in the first week on a flatter course. If he isn't able to do that he might as well not participate given their strength in the mountains honestly.

 

[Netserk]

I hope the last Friday will be a flat stage from Isola to ~Nice, as I just don't see it play out well otherwise.

Ventoux as the end of week 2.

Monday: Rest day
Tuesday: Nyons > Superdévoluy (Manse, Moissière, Chaillol, Noyer)
Wednesday: Gap > Barcelonnette (Cayolle, Champs, Allos)
Thursday: Embrun > Auron (Vars, Bonette)
Friday: Isola > Nice
Saturday: Nice > Couillole (Braus, Turini, Saint-Martin)
Sunday: Monaco > Nice (ITT)