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AupaPyama

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Tour line ups coming in as rain drops in a moesson-rain.

Nice to see we have got some old names coming back in the Tour, who sometimes havent rode a GT in a few years: Venturini, Garcia Cortina, Buchmann, Leknessund.

We have a new generation of (succesfull) French riders debuting: Costiou, Louvel, Le Berre, Barre (all with Arkea now or in the past), Penhoet, Tronchon, Jeanniere, V.Paret-Peintre.

And lots of other high level debutants; nice to see teams are refreshing their line-ups and do not choose for the same old names. For example: Romeo, Castrillo, Plapp, Rubio, Dunbar, Milan, Blackmore.

And pleasssse can Picnic demote to PCT? (pointing at one rider in the line-up in particular)
 
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CyclistAbi said:
@Libertine Seguros

I won't say close to zero instead i will say there is zero chance big 4 and their teams make it all intact till the first rest day. As for secondary GC contenders, there for sure will be decimation involved too, likely some will take that as opportunity. And that will further be like pouring oil on fire.
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We can always hope for a Pereiro-like situation where a 2nd tier but strong rider gets a big gap on a breakaway stage and forces the top GC teams to do more work (or play chicken) during the first 10 days. BUT I think it’s a false hope on my part because the top GC teams are so much stronger than the other that they’re unlikely to ever let a gap like that happen.
 
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Sciatic said:
We can always hope for a Pereiro-like situation where a 2nd tier but strong rider gets a big gap on a breakaway stage and forces the top GC teams to do more work (or play chicken) during the first 10 days. BUT I think it’s a false hope on my part because the top GC teams are so much stronger than the other that they’re unlikely to ever let a gap like that happen.
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Forget the top GC teams (meaning Visma and OAE).
The secondary GC teams wouldn't let such a rider get away early in the race. There will be like 6 teams protecting their podium/top 5/top 10 place from that potential GC rider.
 
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YavorD said:
Forget the top GC teams (meaning Visma and OAE).
The secondary GC teams wouldn't let such a rider get away early in the race. There will be like 6 teams protecting their podium/top 5/top 10 place from that potential GC rider.
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I agree. REGARDLESS, “we can always hope” still stands. “Hope” is entertainment, fascination, a thought problem, and I need not produce protections against hope because that’s all it is. Nor do I require protections against disappointment (in cycling anyways) because in almost every scenario it will still be entertaining.
 
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Tim Cahill

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AupaPyama said:
Tour line ups coming in as rain drops in a moesson-rain.

Nice to see we have got some old names coming back in the Tour, who sometimes havent rode a GT in a few years: Venturini, Garcia Cortina, Buchmann, Leknessund.

We have a new generation of (succesfull) French riders debuting: Costiou, Louvel, Le Berre, Barre (all with Arkea now or in the past), Penhoet, Tronchon, Jeanniere, V.Paret-Peintre.

And lots of other high level debutants; nice to see teams are refreshing their line-ups and do not choose for the same old names. For example: Romeo, Castrillo, Plapp, Rubio, Dunbar, Milan, Blackmore.

And pleasssse can Picnic demote to PCT? (pointing at one rider in the line-up in particular)
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How the *** has Niklas Märkl been selected for the tour :laughing:
 
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ice&fire

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We can always hope for a Pereiro-like situation where a 2nd tier but strong rider gets a big gap on a breakaway stage and forces the top GC teams to do more work (or play chicken) during the first 10 days. BUT I think it’s a false hope on my part because the top GC teams are so much stronger than the other that they’re unlikely to ever let a gap like that happen.
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I've seen more restraint from teenagers at "all-you-can.eat" restaurants than the mutants at races
 
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Unterlenkerfahrend said:
Yeah, I often think about 2001 when it comes to route discussions. As unsatisfying as some of these routes have been in the last years I think we still have it quite good compared to these early 00s garbage. If a route like 2001 was presented today the forum would go mad.
9 days of sprint stages with the exception of a TTT and a medium mountain breakaway stage. Then 5 GC days in a row - and then another 5 sprint stages with an ITT that had no relevance anymore in between. Hilarious balancing.

I don't know, the 5 HC MTFs sound impressive but honestly it doesn't really give a lot value to the route this year, especially given how the last 2 years of racing with the aliens have developed. Don't really see a lot of value in having multiple stages with 30+ minutes mountain time trials at the end but maybe I'm wrong.
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One area those old routes were much better with though, was in having decent length mountain stages and ITT's.
 
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Sciatic said:
We can always hope for a Pereiro-like situation where a 2nd tier but strong rider gets a big gap on a breakaway stage and forces the top GC teams to do more work (or play chicken) during the first 10 days. BUT I think it’s a false hope on my part because the top GC teams are so much stronger than the other that they’re unlikely to ever let a gap like that happen.
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keep dreaming
 
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houtdffan

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Bavarianrider said:
Imagine if the first TT was 25 km longer and the MTT would be up the Ventoux instead of this joke as 22 minute Time Trial.
These two little changes would instantly turn this joke ass route in a decent one. It would be so easy.
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dont have a problem with a 33km TT as it is stage 5

However, stage 20 is criminal. Drunk Gouvenou needs to be sent to the Hague for this abomination. That is the perfect stage for a 65 km ITT

An MTT up Ventoux would also be better than the meme MTT Gouvenou gave us
 
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Bavarianrider said:
Imagine if the first TT was 25 km longer and the MTT would be up the Ventoux instead of this joke as 22 minute Time Trial.
These two little changes would instantly turn this joke ass route in a decent one. It would be so easy.
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A TT up Ventoux would just give whoever is the strongest climber another huge advantage so no thanks about that. Still think mountain stage designs are a much bigger problem than TTs but I also wouldn't complain if the first TT was properly long
 
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