Tour de France Tour de France 2025 Stage 10: Ennezat – Le Mont-Dore (165.3k)

[Froome]

Pathetic ride by Jonas. All of that work of his team for that?

Still a long way to Paris. The real mountains didn't started yet.

 

[Tim Cahill]

Onley is a hilly classics rider, he will ride conservative in the mountains for a top 10 as well as stage placings for a huge UCI points haul, won't trouble Evenepoel, who has to watch the Bora duo and the outside possibility of Jorgenson/Gall. Along with the Italian classics + Poole in the Vuelta it should see Picnic safe.

Vingegaard couldn't follow the nuclear leadout+attack combination in the Dauphine, they've blunted this my making it hard enough such that Pogacar has to do his own leadout, which is easier for him to follow. This only works to an extent though, the elephant in the room is that he needs to attack at some point, I think he will just try and limit on Hautacam.

 

[Breezy1985]

Onley is a hilly classics rider, he will ride conservative in the mountains for a top 10 as well as stage placings for a huge UCI points haul, won't trouble Evenepoel, who has to watch the Bora duo and the outside possibility of Jorgenson/Gall. Along with the Italian classics + Poole in the Vuelta it should see Picnic safe.

Vingegaard couldn't follow the nuclear leadout+attack combination in the Dauphine, they've blunted this my making it hard enough such that Pogacar has to do his own leadout, which is easier for him to follow. This only works to an extent though, the elephant in the room is that he needs to attack at some point, I think he will just try and limit on Hautacam.

Olney also surely has to worry about a very similar but more accomplished hilly classics rider who is currently in yellow/white.

 

[Lequack]

Some pics

 

[awavey]

While it should be he is still showing he is on the ragged edge to hang with Pogacar. JV's strategy of driving tempo to prevent Pogacar's aggression is telling....and losing. Jonas will need a very serious stage 12-14 to be in the podium picture if he's not careful.

yep and this has all the feels of 2023, the same shadowing of Pog who looks assured still, the same the UAE team arent up to the level Visma are and we get another JV stage 16 and spend the next year wondering where the hell that came from, it feels like theyre using the same playbook.

 

[Rechtschreibfehler]

yep and this has all the feels of 2023, the same shadowing of Pog who looks assured still, the same the UAE team arent up to the level Visma are and we get another JV stage 16 and spend the next year wondering where the hell that came from, it feels like theyre using the same playbook.

Well 2023 was a totally different picture than now though. Marie Blanque happened, Pogi striking back, and after 10 stages Pogacar was 16 seconds down on Vingegaard. Now Vingegaard hasn't made a dent into Pogi and is 1:17 back to Pogacar. There were actual mountains things happened on already. We've got nothing in comparision so far this edition. The route this year makes comparisions to the last Tours hard imo and we only really will have an idea after Thursday.

 

[Cookster15]

even though it looked to me that Pogačar put Vingegaard on the ropes in his attack

We saw similar in 2023. For Pog's sake I hope he doesn't do a "Loze" on Superbagnères.

 

[elguapo]

UAE and Visma are now in the middle of a chess game. Visma has more pieces but they have to break Pogacar for them to win. So far Pogi seems to be wiser now than in the previous Tours. He knows that he could TT and sprint faster than in any of the Visma riders. It's only in the climbs and descends that more or less equal, but then based on previous mountain faceoffs, Pogi registered more wins over Vingo.

 

[Oldman]

Well 2023 was a totally different picture than now though. Marie Blanque happened, Pogi striking back, and after 10 stages Pogacar was 16 seconds down on Vingegaard. Now Vingegaard hasn't made a dent into Pogi and is 1:17 back to Pogacar. There were actual mountains things happened on already. We've got nothing in comparision so far this edition. The route this year makes comparisions to the last Tours hard imo and we only really will have an idea after Thursday.

...and how much more energy can JV unilaterally expend trying to "break Tadej" when all they're doing is motorpacing his first 10 zone 3 workouts? They need help from EF and Ineos to accomplish that. Won't get it but really need it.
That and I doubt Pogacar will underfeed and bonk again in his career. His team is thin so they've adjusted strategy accordingly.

 

[Unchained]

Its not really up for debate, its been the norm for decades.
Being in yellow on rest day is one of the biggest intermittent goals in the Tour de France, and having all the buzz, that is paramount for any team and its sponsors and its visitors.
Your not dropping a yellow jersey before rest day with purpose.

This is completely subjective, EF will end up being okay because most of their squad is already circling the drain.EF Easy Post has absolutely nothing Healy at the top next best riders for EF are @30-40 minutes back!! The yellow jersey for them is the equivalent of each guy having a big bag of cement on their back!! EF at the front trying to control will be comical.. And the effort is useless with the energy wasted definitely needed by all for coming brutal mountain stages and intensely difficult uphill time trial.. Ben Healy is a fan favorite for sure, guy is well liked universally but that will not help with the massive weight, responsibility of yellow..

 

[Unchained]

Everybody does, that's the whole purpose of Tour de France.. paying back with "publicity" to the backland & VIPs etc who finance you, & pay your salary.

And a team that is named after an authoritarian regime in the Middle East.!
UAE ain't silent about their motivation for their UAE cycling team.
"We are doing it for global publicity & global branding and to cater for our tourism in Dubai & Abu Dhabi"

So, think again if you don't think UAE cares about publicity, of course they do, l its the purpose... global branding United Arab Emirates and rest days in TdF is one of the biggest media-stages on the globe where you have the latitude & time that is fully cente

This has to be one of the most off the mark posts in a long while. A @2 minute Google history lesson will reveal that the post is factually incorrect and for majority of us, Western people, the countries we come from have history that with even momentary self reflection, we would be silly to throw stones from our glass houses. UAE, Bahrain, Total Energies have made an undeniable positive contribution to bike racing.
Don't know were you got facts about largest media stages in the world, but the facts, the viewership numbers don't support the claim. US as an example have population of @330, million and as a percentage nobody is watching the TDF..The number of people watching is so low that NBC has decided to go back to a reliable source, Lance Armstrong and his associates. NBC hoping his name recognition and popular podcast will help.
Political opinions about who or what you think are authoritarian are unnecessary.
Taking cheap shots at a population, a country is bad form..

 

[Cycling111]

We saw similar in 2023. For Pog's sake I hope he doesn't do a "Loze" on Superbagnères.

No. We haven't seen anything similar on this Tour because there were no mountains on this tour.

 

[AttaqueDeRolland]

Pogačar and Vingegaard once again showing that they are clearly above everyone else which little separating them, even though it looked to me that Pogačar put Vingegaard on the ropes in his attack.

Pogi also put himself in the red. What happened yesterday was a carbon copy of what happened on Rampe Saint-Hilaire. Pogi is doing his absolute peak watts, and he can hold those for a few more seconds than Vingegaard, but then he also has to slow down in order not to completely crack, which then allows Vingegaard to come back to his wheel. It happened on stage four and again yesterday. The exact same situation.

Pathetic ride by Jonas. All of that work of his team for that?

I just think that you don't understand what happened, to be honest ...

Yesterday's stage was so much better suited for Pogi's skillset. That 3,3 kilometer finishing climb is perfect for him, much more so than for Vingegaard. If UAE had the numbers, they would have set a high pace and launched Pogi. It would have been very, very hard for Visma to control. By riding at a high pace all day, they managed to eliminate Narváez, Wellens, Sivakov, and Yatesy before the finishing climb, putting Pogi at a clear disadvantage.

I think there were two goals yesterday for Visma. The first was to try to bridge to Campenaerts with Jorgenson to put Jorgenson into play as a real GC-threat in the eyes of Pogi and UAE. The other was to avoid losing time to Pogi on that last climb, which, again, was much better suited to him than to Vingegaard. Jorgenson couldn't get away, but they managed to neutralize the threat of Pogi taking even more time on Vingegaard.

What Visma is trying to do is clearly also not so much about each individual stage and more so about the bigger picture. Their hope clearly is that by pummeling the peloton day after day, they'll grind UAE down to the point where it's just Pogi on his own. There's no guarantee that Vingegaard will even be able to beat Pogi one-on-one, but I do believe that Visma sees this as their best option.

 

[AttaqueDeRolland]

Jonas will need a very serious stage 12-14 to be in the podium picture if he's not careful.

Yeah, let's just forget that stages 18 and 19 are the most insane stages, shall we?

Remco's climbing is not good this year. He's dropped like a sack of potatoes any time there's been a hard acceleration from Vingegaard or Pogi. Remco's climbing this year is comparable to Onley's or Lipowitz's climbing, not to Vingegaard's or Pogi's, and it's basically just a continuation of Dauphiné. Vingegaard will take minutes on Remco in the high mountains, just as he did to Valmeinier 1800. There's absolutely no chance that Vingegaard is finishing any worse than second.

 

[Kazistuta]

While it should be he is still showing he is on the ragged edge to hang with Pogacar. JV's strategy of driving tempo to prevent Pogacar's aggression is telling....and losing. Jonas will need a very serious stage 12-14 to be in the podium picture if he's not careful.

Let me get this straight, you don't think Vingegaard is the next best GC cyclist in the Tour? "Podium picture" means top3, and no doubt he's the current clear favorite for the second step in the podium.

 

[YavorD]

Yesterday's stage was so much better suited for Pogi's skillset. That 3,3 kilometer finishing climb is perfect for him, much more so than for Vingegaard. If UAE had the numbers, they would have set a high pace and launched Pogi. It would have been very, very hard for Visma to control. By riding at a high pace all day, they managed to eliminate Narváez, Wellens, Sivakov, and Yatesy before the finishing climb, putting Pogi at a clear disadvantage.

I think it's kind of a myth already that "shorter climbs, less than 10 mins, are so much better for Pogacar and Vingegaard needs to avoid losing time".
I can't recall when was the last time Vingegaard was dropped or lost time, apart from the bonuses, on a similar stage.

 

[Netserk]

Where did you see it?

Found the video: https://sport.tv2.dk/video/2025-07-13-det-foeles-elendigt-siger-almeida-6375605388112

Before stage 9 he confirms that he has started to feel a bit sick 2-3 days ago.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Congratulations to Simon Philip Yates for winning the stage.

Benjamin Maxton Healy to the max and in yellow. UAE was hit pretty hard, Almeida abandoning and Sivakov struggling. Still Pogi had everything under control although Visma being persistent in fatiguing. Last acceleration from Pogi mainly served as a mean to prevent further attacks. After Pogi shown some finesse again, not wasting any energy and purposely losing the jersey. All in all first hill and big four started to solidify, like the fact that Rogla had Lipo there and Lipo proving to be great in reducing the gap.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Still a long way to Paris. The real mountains didn't started yet.

Except one of the best designed mountain stages in history (your own words).

 

[Froome]

Except one of the best designed mountain stages in history (your own words).

If the riders /teams don't make the race, i can't do anything.

After the first climb, the peloton was already small.

 

[Valv.Piti]

If the riders /teams don't make the race, i can't do anything.

After the first climb, the peloton was already small.

Lol. Put any climb in the start of a stage 10 in TdF and half the peloton will be out the backdoor. It was a decently designed, quite hard stage in the Massif Central, nothing more. Much better can be done in that area as showed last year

 

[awavey]

Well 2023 was a totally different picture than now though. Marie Blanque happened, Pogi striking back, and after 10 stages Pogacar was 16 seconds down on Vingegaard. Now Vingegaard hasn't made a dent into Pogi and is 1:17 back to Pogacar. There were actual mountains things happened on already. We've got nothing in comparision so far this edition. The route this year makes comparisions to the last Tours hard imo and we only really will have an idea after Thursday.

It's not so much the routes or the gaps in time at the moment it's the tactics of Vingegaard basically marking Pog as his shadow all the time, not losing time but not attacking, when you'd think the point would be you've got to attack Pog to beat him somehow, you aren't going to win the tour by sitting on his wheel the whole time

And it just feels like theyre waiting for 1 stage, targeting a specific stage where Vingegaard goes drops some amazing wattage manages to get a gap on Pog and then back to shadowing everything he does again and job done

This next week of stages could be very interesting

 

[Tricycle Rider]

Good interview with Dan Martin

https://twitter.com/x/status/1944806297741697275

View: https://x.com/itvcycling/status/1944806297741697275

Dang, I had not seen Dan Martin since he retired, looks like he had his teeth done and they look really good! (I'm totally not into the generic, pearly white Hollywood smile because I like teeth with character, but Martin's had a bit too much character.)

Anyhoo, nice words to Healy from Martin.

 

[Unchained]

Let me get this straight, you don't think Vingegaard is the next best GC cyclist in the Tour? "Podium picture" means top3, and no doubt he's the current clear favorite for the second step in the podium.

I think that there are some obvious favorites because of history and current form. A few funky details are that while Pogacar looks like he gets a little more from wattage earthquakes of @20 seconds to @2,3 minutes.. Vingegaard is able to follow although seldom able to pass Pog power moves. But currently the TT was a big separator.. and the 2 riders are beneficiaries of time bonuses so the dominance is just not there from anyone. Press and educated public are saying Pogacar is racing smarter, more mature but you can also say that he is racing with more respect for his rivals.. A few quality racers who are staying in a state of self control and have not allowed Pogacar to run away with it..if Sivakov suffering and Almeida abandonment are signs of things to come, being confident in Vingegaard doesn't seem crazy..

 

[Oldman]

Yeah, let's just forget that stages 18 and 19 are the most insane stages, shall we?

Remco's climbing is not good this year. He's dropped like a sack of potatoes any time there's been a hard acceleration from Vingegaard or Pogi. Remco's climbing this year is comparable to Onley's or Lipowitz's climbing, not to Vingegaard's or Pogi's, and it's basically just a continuation of Dauphiné. Vingegaard will take minutes on Remco in the high mountains, just as he did to Valmeinier 1800. There's absolutely no chance that Vingegaard is finishing any worse than second.

It'll be over before 18 & 19. Eyeroll for your benefit....

As for Remco it was telling yesterday on the finish run in. Matteo took a dig, albeit mostly a ramp up in speed. Remco attacked from mid-group and got just clear of the front before Lipowitz and Co. brought him back; then he attacked with quick response from Pogacar. He jumped, Jonas got on but looking farther down the line you could see Remco pull out of pursuit. Serious contenders sat on him and really identifed the first victim was Remco. They made him pull most of the way to recover that time gap to P & J.
RBH at least is making him their prime target with their attention on stage 10. They need to with the TT after Hautecam adding to his lead but that just sets up stage 14 for them.
I think Matteo, though he's primarily working for Jonas (unless the TT goes horrible for Vindegaard) will try to put time into Remco who will have put full effort into the TT to stay in the picture. Remco may already know that his climbing is not going to get him on the podium and ride stage 12 to be fresher for a chance at the TT win. The other players: Vauguelin, Onley, Florian and Primoz will pile on to any weakness they can exploit.