Tour de France the alliance thread

Apr 9, 2011
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So Sammy and Contador are going to work together - Contador told Sammy he was going to attack yesterday and Sammy will ride for himself and work for Contador, Movistar may help Contador if they can maybe as pay for a Spanish Champion - The Spanish inquisition alliance

Basso and Evans 2 similar riders (diesel motors) in the mountains, with the same mentor - The Aldo alliance

Andy and Fränk want Contador to attack so they get a break on the other riders, not sure if this is an alliance or not but - The we need a team leader alliance

OPL and Movistar want high speed to get Cav out of time on a stage - The Cav´s a car holder alliance

anymore ?
 
Jul 4, 2011
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Has Sanchez helped Contador?

Some posts in this forum and a commentator might have mentioned it.
Has /is he? Do others do it? In the Giro I gathered it does. What about the Vuelta?
Nine members per team and it's not fair even then (different funding) but to have a competitor assist the opposition stinks!
I haven't noticed it occurring in other sports. Or does it?
 
Jul 4, 2011
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Where it suits both teams an alliance is justified, but if Samu and T? are helping a member of another team, that is wrong!
You don't notice a football player changing sides during matches so how can the managers / race organisers put up with it.
Penalise the offender(s)!
 
Jun 28, 2011
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terri@canberra said:
Where it suits both teams an alliance is justified, but if Samu and T? are helping a member of another team, that is wrong!
You don't notice a football player changing sides during matches so how can the managers / race organisers put up with it.
Penalise the offender(s)!

Yes Sammy lost a ton of time by helping Contador didn't he?

Tiralongo, sigh, instead of chasing his first pro win of his career he is helping Contador.

Oh wait. :rolleyes:
 
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terri@canberra said:
Have they or not??????
If they have, I do say IF, even for a millisecond, then that's ethically wrong.

Nope it happens a lot and has happen through out the history of cycling.
 
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Today, all french riders should go in a collective breakaway to ensure France finally gets a stage victory. The nationalism-alliance.
 
Jul 7, 2011
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if you read what richie porte said in the paper today, he is torn between evans an helping AC, notsure what richie can do being a half an hour behind evans in the next few stages :rolleyes:
 
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terri@canberra said:
I have never noticed it in other sports, why cycling?

It happens in a lot of long distance sports

Marathon running - cross country sking the world verse Norway as an example

But tradition I guess ask Stephen Roche about it after his team did not want to work for him except 1 guy.
 
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gerrans for the win said:
if you read what richie porte said in the paper today, he is torn between evans an helping AC, notsure what richie can do being a half an hour behind evans in the next few stages :rolleyes:

Link ???????
 
Jul 4, 2011
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just some guy said:
..- cross country sking the world verse Norway as an example....
Fair enough JSG, and that explains why i haven't noticed it, I've only seen snow twice in my life let alone cross country sking!
 
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just some guy said:
It happens in a lot of long distance sports

Marathon running - cross country sking the world verse Norway as an example

But tradition I guess ask Stephen Roche about it after his team did not want to work for him except 1 guy.

Yup, and the boss of one of the guys involved in the 1987 Giro alliance, Robert Millar, was widely castigated for failing to do the deals which would have stopped Delgado stealing the Vuelta from under his nose.
 
terri@canberra said:
Nine members per team and it's not fair even then (different funding) but to have a competitor assist the opposition stinks!

The Great One helped Samu a lot more than the other way yesteday.

The only reason why people are claiming Samu domestiqued for Contador (as far as i can gather) is because they hate both so want to claim COntador is getting unfair assistance (not because hes a good guy whose generally liked, btw, but because of nationality) and want to insult Samu by saying hes onnly a domestique. (see sportzchick comment in stage 17 thread).

If you watch yesterdays stage Contador takes the pace for all of the uphill and most of the downhill.

Since when does a domestique get towed most of the way?

Also Contador said that if Samu wasnt there he would have attacked and tried to drop Cadel, but since Samu was there and it was only 3k to the top, he didnt want to risk dropping Samu as well.

Contador helped Samu a lot more than the other way around.
 
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And who can forget that symbiotic alliance between Contador and Armstrong last year.

And speaking of Armstrong, isn't it about time that he came out and called the frontrunners in the tour a bunch of pussies and that if he was racing he would be leading by 10 minutes by now?