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Well zingle is very unlucky in that regardAlphabetical order
Well zingle is very unlucky in that regardAlphabetical order
The fact they don’t go by first name is disgraceful honestly.Well zingle is very unlucky in that regard
If Pogacar’s teammates would have worked for him on the ultimate climb instead of going for their own result, he’d have actually won the stage.Pogi well beaten by Godon and also by his teammate but, most importantly, he's 1 second ahead of Rogla! The battle continues @CyclistAbi
The French are humbling Washedgacar these days. First Seixas not letting him go on Redoute and only gifting the win because he doesn't want the attention as a 19 year old just yet and now Godon putting an eternity into him. How can you be the goat and only put 1 second into 50 year old out of shape Roglic who just returned from a 3 weeks holiday.
I was talking in trainingAbsolutely nothing.
The TTs in GTs he does are merely figment of imagination
I cant see that posibility. He is not the first rider to start at Romandie after to be at Liege with a good paper.Transition from classics to stage racing is not easy. Hopefully Pogi won't be dropped like a stone tomorrow when he realizes the climb is longer than 2 km.
I know a certain rider who almost beat Godon in an uphill sprint in Catalunya who has an okay TT pedigreeGodon did a monster time, I don't know which rider could have beaten him today. Maybe Ganna on a good day?
Pogacar did well, with an earlier start he probably would have been 2nd. I am positively surprised by Lipowitz and Voisard. Onley was absolutely terrible.
Look who's suddenly the expert on the alphabet.Well zingle is very unlucky in that regard
I cant see that posibility. He is not the first rider to start at Romandie after to be at Liege with a good paper.
it is normal to start easy, but tomorrow the doubt if is he will do at Seixas at Aralar, in fact, the climb tomorrow is even harder, but at the end lot of flat km... or he decided not to attack or just look for an small group...
Nice to get that historical context, thanks,For a long time the race has been heavily dependent on whether or not GT riders are interested in the Ardennes, because its spot in the calendar usually meant that Ardennes challengers would either be resting or coming off form at this point in time, and it's often so close to the Giro that those racing the Corsa Rosa are reluctant to go all out for it. As a result, during times when the big GT contenders were interested in the Ardennes, it would serve as a sort of stage racing proving ground for lesser names and prospect contenders, but during times when the big GT contenders were not interested in the Ardennes, it would have some very strong fields and be a key battleground in the psychology of the season.
During most of the 2000s and early 2010s, therefore, it was not a very strong field (maybe a couple of major contenders but not a very deep field), with the early 2000s being about the super-peaking to try to compete with the dominance of Not Assigned in July, and the late 2000s and early 2010s seeing a lot of guys like Valverde, Evans, the Schleck brothers, Rodríguez, Cunego and co all being interested in the Ardennes so either not showing in Romandie or coming there as form tapered off (Evans did win the race twice). However, during the 2010s, a lot of the main GT GC men were not explosive Ardennes types, and so guys like Wiggins, Froome and Quintana would seldom be bothering with Flèche Wallonne and Liège-Bastogne-Liège, giving Romandie added importance in their calendar and seeing its value increased with deeper GC fields.
It's been moving back towards its early 2010s self in the post-pandemic times, it still draws decent fields but isn't a focal point as more of the current GC men have developed interest in the hilly classics (and in the cases of Pogačar and Evenepoel, the northern ones too) meaning that they will be unlikely to be at peak form here as for many riders it's the last race of the spring before a bit of a break.
But That is no so clear. He has just came from Liege, he has harder stages, and there are 25 km totally flat at the end. If any team organize behind it would be normal to catch him.I was joking of course. Tomorrow likely a solo win by Pog by a healthy margin (1 minute+). It's a fresh effort climb so maybe not much more than a minute.
But That is no so clear. He has just came from Liege, he has harder stages, and there are 25 km totally flat at the end. If any team organize behind it would be normal to catch him.
But if there is a group of about with just a domestique to worlk and the rest looks each other for sure Pogacar can get the line in traning mode, not giving everything, if there is a group of 5-10 selected riders, and everybody collaborates a little, the same.
Becouse if there is bigger, there is always someone not collaborating...and in the case Bora has to chose one, I think not Lipowwiz nor Roglic are going to work for the other.
They are riding for second before Pogacar even takes off.There's no way you have teams after such a climb.
You could have a couple of team mates, but if the gap at the bottom is more than, say, 1.30, they will just fight for second.
IIRC Lenond got 10th in 1990 and then went on to win the Tour.For a long time the race has been heavily dependent on whether or not GT riders are interested in the Ardennes, because its spot in the calendar usually meant that Ardennes challengers would either be resting or coming off form at this point in time, and it's often so close to the Giro that those racing the Corsa Rosa are reluctant to go all out for it. As a result, during times when the big GT contenders were interested in the Ardennes, it would serve as a sort of stage racing proving ground for lesser names and prospect contenders, but during times when the big GT contenders were not interested in the Ardennes, it would have some very strong fields and be a key battleground in the psychology of the season.
During most of the 2000s and early 2010s, therefore, it was not a very strong field (maybe a couple of major contenders but not a very deep field), with the early 2000s being about the super-peaking to try to compete with the dominance of Not Assigned in July, and the late 2000s and early 2010s seeing a lot of guys like Valverde, Evans, the Schleck brothers, Rodríguez, Cunego and co all being interested in the Ardennes so either not showing in Romandie or coming there as form tapered off (Evans did win the race twice). However, during the 2010s, a lot of the main GT GC men were not explosive Ardennes types, and so guys like Wiggins, Froome and Quintana would seldom be bothering with Flèche Wallonne and Liège-Bastogne-Liège, giving Romandie added importance in their calendar and seeing its value increased with deeper GC fields.
It's been moving back towards its early 2010s self in the post-pandemic times, it still draws decent fields but isn't a focal point as more of the current GC men have developed interest in the hilly classics (and in the cases of Pogačar and Evenepoel, the northern ones too) meaning that they will be unlikely to be at peak form here as for many riders it's the last race of the spring before a bit of a break.
Oh, if you go through the history of the race it's not like there are many also-rans winning the race - it's just that a lot of the time when the GC guys were also Ardennes guys, if they raced here it would usually be while their form was beginning to tail off, so guys like Evans or Valverde who had a pretty high base level of performance would still go relatively well.IIRC Lenond got 10th in 1990 and then went on to win the Tour.
Pogi well beaten by Godon and also by his teammate but, most importantly, he's 1 second ahead of Rogla! The battle continues @CyclistAbi
The French are humbling Washedgacar these days. First Seixas not letting him go on Redoute and only gifting the win because he doesn't want the attention as a 19 year old just yet and now Godon putting an eternity into him. How can you be the goat and only put 1 second into 50 year old out of shape Roglic who just returned from a 3 weeks holiday.
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Don't think it was ever (or not in modern years at least) used in a decisive phase of the race - only early on in 2024. In a somewhat similar finish in 2010 it was climbed from the other side.
This one, until the town of Ovronnaz.They will climb this side or the other side?
