Tour de Suisse 2025 - Men's (June 15- June 22)

[yaco]

O'Connor continuing Jayco's disturbing trend of GC type riders having one bad day. Its unforgiveable.

 

[Squire]

A wild Bob Jungels appearing in 21st.

 

[Tricycle Rider]

A wild Bob Jungels appearing in 21st.

Been a while since I've seen Bob Jungels mentioned, he had it going on a while back.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Nah, Gall is still behind him. Van Wilder and Riccitello are still within reach as well

If he does a decent TT, i think only O'Connor can take him. Taking the '23 Giro MTT as reference, you can see he is barely worse than Van Wilder and Riccitello on a climbing TT, and no need to mention Gall going by last year's result:

https://www.procyclingstats.com/race/giro-d-italia/2023/stage-20

So for him to lose his spot to Gall, Riccitello and Van Wilder, he would need to lose considerable time before the TT.

 

[Red Rick]

O'Connor continuing Jayco's disturbing trend of GC type riders having one bad day. Its unforgiveable.

He's not continuing that trend.

He basically hasn't had a good day this year.

 

[Tricycle Rider]

back with the pastel jersey fashion again, if I had any say.

Anything but black, please.

 

[noob]

Anything but black, please.

I'm baffled by how many teams has dark jerseys!

 

[Unchained]

I'm baffled by how many teams has dark jerseys!

Hot enough to get dozens of bottles just to pour over your head and body, and team typically wears white, but you choose the hotter of 2 colors..?

Yesterday someone mentioned that Oscar Onley was emerging as GC contender. Guy rode really well was able to trade pace with Joao Almeida and show great sprint after brutal climb, impressive for sure..
Julian Alaphilippe showing signs of old, excellent effort today.
Neilson Powless popped after outstanding breakaway try.. Settling for 39th place

 

[tobydawq]

It's always a sorrowful day when idiocy goes unpunished.

It did not. Alaphilippe's over the top optimism cost him the leader's jersey.

 

[tobydawq]

Does anybody know who I should contact to cover my eye doctor bill after having needed to dig my eyeballs out of my brain after all the times I rolled my eyes due to the producers needing to show Grégoire and other hopelessly irrelevant groups constantly throughout the final 20 kms of today's stage?

 

[Unchained]

Does anybody know who I should contact to cover my eye doctor bill after having needed to dig my eyeballs out of my brain after all the times I rolled my eyes due to the producers needing to show Grégoire and other hopelessly irrelevant groups constantly throughout the final 20 kms of today's stage?

Today was a very very difficult day for camera crews for sure, some of the helicopter shots were from really really distant vantage points because of skinny curved roads,
so maybe camera operator said, we are already here so why not take video of crushed possibilities and broken dreams. Many riders get really hot if you put the camera on them blowing up.

 

[tobydawq]

Today was a very very difficult day for camera crews for sure, some of the helicopter shots were from really really distant vantage points because of skinny curved roads,
so maybe camera operator said, we are already here so why not take video of crushed possibilities and broken dreams. Many riders get really hot if you put the camera on them blowing up.

Nothing to do with that, they had cameras on the front group but constantly cut away from that for no reason. Even when there were attacks.

 

[Unchained]

Nothing to do with that, they had cameras on the front group but constantly cut away from that for no reason. Even when there were attacks.

Everything to do with that,
rewatch any,every race for production value, they rotate cameras..
Helicopters don't only shoot lead of the race. All motorcycles don't rush only to the front to shoot leaders. You have limited cameras, you have a program director, he or she calls for moto to go to or change position. So someone in direction, thought that certain sub sect of fans would be interested in race leaders position, good or bad..Gregoire was of great interest for many days in a row.. Cameras often go to popular riders away from the action.. Remco, Roglic, Ayuso, all had plenty of camera time long after they were out of contention, out of the mix..
They cut away from the front because until the finish, that's what they think fans want..

 

[tobydawq]

Everything to do with that,
rewatch any,every race for production value, they rotate cameras..
Helicopters don't only shoot lead of the race. All motorcycles don't rush only to the front to shoot leaders. You have limited cameras, you have a program director, he or she calls for moto to go to or change position. So someone in direction, thought that certain sub sect of fans would be interested in race leaders position, good or bad..Gregoire was of great interest for many days in a row.. Cameras often go to popular riders away from the action.. Remco, Roglic, Ayuso, all had plenty of camera time long after they were out of contention, out of the mix..
They cut away from the front because until the finish, that's what they think fans want..

That's what I'm saying. It was completely idiotic to show him THAT MUCH! Fine if we see him get dropped and a couple of shots after but he got 35% of screen time after it was clear he had no chance to defend. It was moronic to think that fans would rather see that than the actual GC battles and the Danish commentators agreed with me, so it's not just me seeing things.

Race production has been terrible this race which is a shame and impressive given that they're riding in some of the most aesthetically pleasing surroundings in the world.

And the motos certainly didn't rotate during the period I'm talking about

 

[jmdirt]

Solid run to the line!

 

[Gratemans]

Vauqelin rode on that weird Bianchi Oltre, but then again, they pros really get them at the billed weight and a puncher like him probably prefers the stiffer bike.
Someone might look into Gall's saddle height or cank length, those knees pointing outwards isn't excatly nice to look at.

Well that's just an homage to Pozzovivo obviously

 

[fenns]

Nothing to do with that, they had cameras on the front group but constantly cut away from that for no reason. Even when there were attacks.

Watching the Tour on TV would not be the same without the GC attacks at the front being missed while we watch strugglers off the back of the peleton.

 

[P4rthen0n]

Does anybody know who I should contact to cover my eye doctor bill after having needed to dig my eyeballs out of my brain after all the times I rolled my eyes due to the producers needing to show Grégoire and other hopelessly irrelevant groups constantly throughout the final 20 kms of today's stage?

Unfortunately it seems that Tour de Suisse doesn't have enough motos.
It's exasperating having semi constant coverage of the back of group 5 or 6 with guys who won't even make it to top10, instead of filming the action going on in the GC group.

 

[Mayomaniac]

Well that's just an homage to Pozzovivo obviously

Pozzovivo probably rode with too long cranks his whole career. The Swiss commentators actually compared Gall's riding style to Froome, now that's where I draw the line. Sure, his knees are out and he rides at a high cadence, but we're not a the "pushing a shopping car" style crime levels of Froome.

 

[Squire]

Unfortunately it seems that Tour de Suisse doesn't have enough motos.
It's exasperating having semi constant coverage of the back of group 5 or 6 with guys who won't even make it to top10, instead of filming the action going on in the GC group.

I think they have way too many. They had motos on several of the single riders/small groups fighting near the front AND motos for irrelevant backmarkers, the latter of which they were very eager to show.

 

[Cookster15]

Congrats to Oscar Onley - nice win. But Almeida seems really strong. He looks good for GC with the MTT to come.

Sadly a shocker for Ben O'Conner.

 

[dazaau]

That's what I'm saying. It was completely idiotic to show him THAT MUCH! Fine if we see him get dropped and a couple of shots after but he got 35% of screen time after it was clear he had no chance to defend. It was moronic to think that fans would rather see that than the actual GC battles and the Danish commentators agreed with me, so it's not just me seeing things.

Race production has been terrible this race which is a shame and impressive given that they're riding in some of the most aesthetically pleasing surroundings in the world.

And the motos certainly didn't rotate during the period I'm talking about

You are fortunate to see the race, I would like to have followed Suisse more closely but all I have are the YouTube highlight videos and they are DREADFUL. No commentary. Random cuts, I watched today's because I thought it was going to be an interesting stage and I have never been so confused while watching sport in my life.

 

[YavorD]

Apart from the race itself, the route is really beautiful.
Not that you can expect anything different from Switzerland, but we've sen some incredible images through the race.
And Sunday should be spectacular as well.