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Tour of Denmark 2024, August 14 to 18

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Cort must go for the stage win tomorrow if he wants to win the GC. The two flat finishes favours De Lie.

That finish suits De Lie a lot tho. the question is, will De Lie be in good position. Cort is one of the fastest here too, if both are in good position De LIe wins normally but I also wouldn't be surprised if Cort beats him on these flat sprints cause he's just not in good position.
 
No Lotto was 4s (and some tenth) faster so De Lie is in the lead. Cort took 4 boni's more ofcourse.
UCI rules don't allow this, by the way. Normally Cort should be the leader:

"Where two or more riders make the same time in the general individual time placings, the fractions of a second registered during individual time trials (including the prologue) shall be added back into the total time to decide the order.

If the result is still tied or if there are no individual time trial stages the placings obtained in each stage, except team time trial stages, shall be added and, as a last resort, the place obtained in the last stage ridden shall be taken into consideration."
 
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There seems to be "local" rules. Let's see if we will get a statement from the organizers.
yeah, but normally they can't just write a roadbook which is not in accordance with UCI rules.

Which this is not:

a) Individual classification

The times as recorded by the timekeeper commissaires shall be entered in the general time classifications. Bonuses are only taken into consideration for the individual general classification.

Where two or more riders make the same time in the general individual time placings, the fractions of a second registered during team time trials shall be added back into the total time to decide the order.

If the result is still tied the placings obtained in each stage shall be added and, as a last resort, the place obtained in the last stage ridden shall be taken into consideration. According to UCI article 2.6.015.
 
yeah, but normally they can't just write a roadbook which is not in accordance with UCI rules.

Which this is not:

a) Individual classification

The times as recorded by the timekeeper commissaires shall be entered in the general time classifications. Bonuses are only taken into consideration for the individual general classification.

Where two or more riders make the same time in the general individual time placings, the fractions of a second registered during team time trials shall be added back into the total time to decide the order.

If the result is still tied the placings obtained in each stage shall be added and, as a last resort, the place obtained in the last stage ridden shall be taken into consideration. According to UCI article 2.6.015.

The problem with this is ofcourse the new style TTT's where everyone gets their own time like it is somewhat individual. Technically it's still a TTT so you're correct I guess, but it feels weird tho.
 
The problem with this is ofcourse the new style TTT's where everyone gets their own time like it is somewhat individual. Technically it's still a TTT so you're correct I guess, but it feels weird tho.
And the problem with that is that it is not a legal format for racing per the UCI.

But even if they were not looking at TT fractions of a second, De Lie would have it on countback:
2nd + 3rd vs 1st + 6th (if taking team positions in St 1),
2nd +10th vs 1st + 18th (from individual timing)
 
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And the problem with that is that it is not a legal format for racing per the UCI.

But even if they were not looking at TT fractions of a second, De Lie would have it on countback:
2nd + 3rd vs 1st + 6th (if taking team positions in St 1),
2nd +10th vs 1st + 18th (from individual timing)

TTTs don't count for the countback. I mean the rule is stupid as a whole, why would you not count the fractions of a second in the TTT, it's always better than adding up the places, which is just annoying in a lot of races. The difference is also really close to a whole second (8 tenths if I'm correct). Anyways I doubt it will matter in the end, don't think they'll end in the same second.
 
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And the problem with that is that it is not a legal format for racing per the UCI.
I would think for men's cycling, taking the time for the 1st finisher is possible within the rules:

The specific regulations for the event shall specify on which rider of a team crossing the finishing line the classification of teams will be timed for the finish. In UCI Women’s WorldTour team time trials the time shall be taken on the fourth rider.


Crediting individual times for riders in the same group, like they did in Denmark yesterday, though... not so sure.
 
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I would think for men's cycling, taking the time for the 1st finisher is possible within the rules:

The specific regulations for the event shall specify on which rider of a team crossing the finishing line the classification of teams will be timed for the finish.
I guess so, although I am pretty sure that is outside the legislator's intention. I'm sure they were considering having the option of 4th or 5th man when there are 8 or (previously) more in a team.
 
I will never understand why Cort can't race in one day races like this. I always thought it was the distance or something but today was 235 km and almost 5000kjs.

I guess it's mainly because he doesn't really like them? I mean he seems to simply choose riding stage races over one day races.

Also interesting. After this Tour of Denmark UNO X will come really close to 19th place, Arkea on the 3y ranking. They are closing the gap towards 18th place (DSM) pretty quickly the last few months. I gave them no chance to get a WT license in 2026 at the beginning of the year, but it's actually looking pretty good right now with the flow they're in. Will be hard to keep scoring like this the upcoming weeks tho, but I do expect them to win that small french race where only the TT matters, and do really good in Druivenkoers and Muur classic.
 
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He should give Flèche Wallonne a shot.

Good track record on uphill finishes when you look at his palmares including this one:



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